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Post by driftwoody on Dec 23, 2022 9:15:39 GMT -8
I'm looking for a good pair of gloves with fine dexterity (example: tying guylines) that are durable enough for all day hiking with trekking poles, yet thin enough to be a baselayer under warmer gloves. Touchscreen capability is a plus, but I've never found those to be very effective. Usually the "conductive" material is on the broad flat part of the fingers ends, not on the tip of the forefinger and side of the thumb tip which actually contact the screen. My searches led me to these GloveTacts, which are small adhesive patches that stick to glove fingers. Anyway, my fingers can't endure the cold like they used to. I often camp in temps below 40 or below freezing. My local dayhikes are in the winter, and I like to record the tracks on my Gaia GPS app. My fingers do not easily recover after more than a brief exposure in freezing temps. |
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Post by BigLoad on Dec 23, 2022 9:39:05 GMT -8
My fingers do not easily recover after more than a brief exposure in freezing temps. Finger care is one of my top priorities in cold-weather camping. I plan the duration of every glove removal and sequence activities to let my hands re-warm between them. I can never entirely avoid having to spend five minutes standing with hands tucked into my armpits a couple times every morning. Once it was closer to half an hour. I have some Manzella rain gloves with grippy fingers, but I've never tried using them as a base layer under such conditions because bare fingers can do everything so much faster and easier. |
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Post by dayhiker on Dec 23, 2022 9:50:03 GMT -8
I have some liner gloves, haven’t used for a long time, but we’re good for short periods when it is really cold and windy, like at the top of a ski lift.
I find they actually make my hands colder under mittens, and use Meteor Mitts for cross country skiing. The inner mitt is sort of like those half finger mittens with a mitten cover BUT it is more like a half mitt, that keeps most of your hand warm, AND you can pull your fingers in sort of like can with a sleeve that too long, and top goes on and off easily.
I would bring a stylus if that was important?
Oh I remove the magnets they put on the newer version, not too good with compass, pots.
I could take a picture if u are interested
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Post by driftwoody on Dec 23, 2022 9:55:38 GMT -8
I don't want to carry more than two pair, hence the need for a functional liner during the day when bare hands need some insulation but not much. Breaking camp in the early morning is when I really need dexterity gloves. I'd like to avoid having to spend ten minutes warming fingers under armpits, as I often end up doing.
I use 6 or more guylines with the tarp over my hammock. Taking them down and stowing them coiled properly is time consuming.
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Post by zeke on Dec 23, 2022 10:12:50 GMT -8
Taking them down and stowing them coiled properly is time consuming. Here's a hint. Use Mason's Twine for your guylines. I can wad mine up, cram them into a snake skin, and they still don't tangle enough to bother me upon next use. I like the yellow twine as it adds to visibility. Also, add 12-18 inches of 1/8 inch shock cord to your tarp at the tie out points. Any wind will stretch the shock cord but the tarp will resume original position once the wind stops. |
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Post by driftwoody on Dec 23, 2022 10:32:37 GMT -8
Mason's Twine for your guylines I have tarp ticks from Warbonnet (compatible with1.5mm-2.5mm guyline) attached to my stake pullout cords. Does the thickness of Mason's line fall within those specs. |
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Post by zeke on Dec 23, 2022 10:56:17 GMT -8
Does the thickness of Mason's line fall within those specs. Yes, and I think you'd prefer the lack of tangles. |
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Post by driftwoody on Dec 23, 2022 11:15:00 GMT -8
Yes, and I think you'd prefer the lack of tangles. I never have tangles, but quick & easy stow (just wad up, no need to properly coil) would be a big plus. I don't keep them attached to the tarp, so I assume multiple wads can be stashed in the same ditty bag. |
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Post by zeke on Dec 23, 2022 11:20:45 GMT -8
Yes, and #18 Mason's twine (the most common size) is 1.5mm and has a 165# test. #30 is still less than 2.5mm but i can't find its test strength. #30 is mostly sold as seine net twine or for tying out decoys. As cheap as the twine is, you could buy a roll for about $3, and test out my wad up and tangle free experience in the living room. Then you won't be cussing me in the field. |
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Post by driftwoody on Dec 23, 2022 11:23:33 GMT -8
My local Home Depot and Menards have #18 yellow Mason's line (not listed as "twine"). |
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Post by zeke on Dec 23, 2022 11:25:27 GMT -8
Same thing. Braided nylon.
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Post by texasbb on Dec 23, 2022 11:37:25 GMT -8
Mason's twine makes for tie-only knots.
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Post by jazzmom on Dec 23, 2022 11:59:49 GMT -8
I have two pairs of merino wool "liner" gloves that I've had forever, at least 10 years I think. One is Smartwool and the other Icebreaker. Both in the 200-250g weight range, very much like this one: www.icebreaker.com/en-us/mens-gloves/merino-200-oasis-glove-liners/IBM207.html?dwvar_IBM207_color=001. I wear them by themselves when it's in the 30's and layer them under a pair of alpaca mittens when it's colder, down mittens when it's super cold. My dexterity litmus test is being able to tear off a plastic doggy poop bag from the roll, open it up, scoop up poop, flip it inside out and tie a knot. :D I layer the merino gloves under mittens in really cold weather so that I don't ever have to be barehanded. I think "durability" in gloves has a lot to do with their fit lengthwise; making sure that they're not too short. You don't want any pressure on the glove at the finger tips. My son has really long fingers and manages to poke through any knit glove in no time. |
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Post by driftwoody on Dec 23, 2022 12:21:00 GMT -8
My problem with liner gloves is my fingers are short compared to hand circumference. Dexterity is impeded by excess material beyond the fingertips.
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Post by driftwoody on Dec 23, 2022 12:26:48 GMT -8
Mason's twine makes for tie-only knots. Does that simply mean it can't be untied? I won't need to do that, but it will be used repeatedly in crimp hardware. |
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