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Post by zeke on Sept 25, 2022 5:59:27 GMT -8
Smart water bottle weighs 1.2 ounces, capacity 1L (33.? oz)
Gatorade bottle weighs 1.6 ounces, capacity 28 ounces
Any other considerations? Is one sturdier than the other? More prone to damage? Gatorade bottle has a little more girth, so that could be an issue with some pockets.
Personally, I like the Gatorade bottle for a pee bottle, as the mouth is larger, and the distinct shape makes it impossible to mistake in the dark.
But for the sake of this discussion, I was more interested in using a smart water bottle for drinking from.
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Post by rebeccad on Sept 25, 2022 7:34:24 GMT -8
Gatorde bottle is sturdier,but maybe also more brittle? Also, your Sawyer filter will fit on the Smartwater bottle, but not on the Gatorade, if you care about that. Beyond that, it’s probably a question of which fits better in your pack pockets, is easier to get in/out, etc.
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Post by texasbb on Sept 25, 2022 12:22:51 GMT -8
I don't think the Smart Water bottles last as long...because people squeeze them. I've got a couple of Gatorade bottles I've been using since 2008 or 2009. I guess they'll last forever if I don't lose the lids.
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Post by BigLoad on Sept 25, 2022 14:23:16 GMT -8
I like Smartwater for water, partly because the tall, thin shape packs well, and partly because the threads are fairly compatible with some of my filtration gear. I find Gatorade bottles useful for mixing electrolyte drinks and the like. Since I mostly use Platypus bags for water, I'm more likely to carry one Gatorade bottle for mixing things. (Actually, it's most often a Vitaminwater bottle.)
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Post by swmtnbackpacker on Sept 25, 2022 16:08:43 GMT -8
I like Smartwater for water, partly because the tall, thin shape packs well, and partly because the threads are fairly compatible with some of my filtration gear. Think that’s why the Smartwater bottle has risen in popularity. Not that it’s the only 1L choice with “Life-water”, etc.. Some may go 2L but that can lead to sloshing as the bigger bottles empty. I see very few use Gatorade bottles anymore. I don't think the Smart Water bottles last as long...because people squeeze them…. If not heated and periodically cleaned, don’t see why they can’t be used for awhile (of course I lose them after putting just the right amount of stickers on them).
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Post by rangewalker on Sept 27, 2022 7:30:29 GMT -8
I have used the Gatorade bottles and for me it is been a "meh". I dayhike every weekend or at least once a week in the calendar, so water carry is frequent. I want an easy to keep clean re-usable container. Recycling plastics, regardless of material, is a hoax. The other issue I have is 4 months a year where I am, all my insulated jackets and covers fit one liter Nalgenes or 2 liter bladders.
Like others have mentioned, interoperability of the "C" standard beverage thread used on the Smart Water bottle with other devices makes them very attractive. My Platypus water bladders and containers have long used the same threads. I actually loathe the Smart Water bottles yet have used them at times. I do have a number of other collapsible 2 liter water containers and a "C" thread CNOC 3-liter raw water bag that will work with Sawyer filter and my MSR MiniWorks filter.
Hey BeFree folks! Is the Gatorade bottle and BeFree threads the same?
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Post by zeke on Sept 27, 2022 10:00:07 GMT -8
Hey BeFree folks! Is the Gatorade bottle and BeFree threads the same? Researching this, it appears the BeFree requires a 42mm threaded top, and the Gatorade type bottles do not fit. I measured them at 40mm, at most. Which leads me to this: Other than to sell their own bottles, why would any filter maker not make it compatible with whatever the largest group of users already use?
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Post by rangewalker on Sept 27, 2022 10:41:10 GMT -8
Exactly: Which leads me to this: Other than to sell their own bottles, why would any filter maker not make it compatible with whatever the largest group of users already use? From the MSR Mini Works system that used the Nalgene thread on whole family of water handling products to the Sawyer designs building around the C standard....why did BeFree go out there with a proprietary standard? CNOC did jump in with bags. The hype around Gatorade bottles started at the same time I was using 2 liter bottles for large water hauls rather than my heavier MSR bladders. They are the C standard too. About 2016-17 I saw about every YouTube thru hiker and Insta_Influencer sticking their Sawyer filters atop a Smart Water bottle and more than a few with Gatorade bottles for mixes. Just like many us of old sods do.
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Post by texasbb on Sept 27, 2022 14:26:29 GMT -8
Hey BeFree folks! Is the Gatorade bottle and BeFree threads the same? Wouldn't help if they were. You have to squeeze to push water through the BeFree, and Gatorade bottles don't squeeze. The alternative is to poke a hole in the bottom for a hanging system. I carry a separate soft bottle (CNOC) for filtering, whether it's a BeFree or a Sawyer. It's normally empty and rolled up while I'm hiking, but I use it to tank up for dry camps when necessary.
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Post by Coolkat on Sept 27, 2022 19:24:40 GMT -8
Smart water bottle weighs 1.2 ounces I'm going to call the manufacturer and complain as mine weighs 1.4 ounces.
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Post by ErnieW on Sept 27, 2022 19:35:47 GMT -8
Here is an article from WebMD about bottles: webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/is-it-safe-to-reuse-plastic-water-bottles I thought chemical leeching was an issue but they say: Plastic bottles can harbor harmful bacteria, which is why most manufacturers recommend you use them only once. In truth, bacterial growth in water bottles is a much bigger concern than chemical leaching.
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Post by Coolkat on Sept 28, 2022 3:48:49 GMT -8
The few times a year that I reuse my plastic water bottles I'm not too worried about bpa's and leeching. Although admittedly I'm not too worried about bacteria either. Maybe I'm too lax in my attitude. However, I admittedly I am a little concerned about the bacteria in lakes, streams, creeks, ponds etc.. that I get my water from so I do actually filter it before putting in my reused plastic bottles.
But as I recall nalgenes are plastic also but much easier to wash than a "smart water" bottle. I kinda wish that drinking from those bottles made me smarter.
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Post by schlanky on Oct 4, 2022 8:07:05 GMT -8
Plastic bottles can harbor harmful bacteria, which is why most manufacturers recommend you use them only once. In truth, bacterial growth in water bottles is a much bigger concern than chemical leaching. So I'm thinking this would also be a big concern for bladders that have lots more nooks and crannies for bacteria to hide. I freeze water in Gatorade bottles for summer day hiking. I use a combination of Smartwater and Nalgene bottles as well as Platypus bladders on overnight trips. I rotate to new Gatorade and Smartwater bottles occasionally. Between sporadic bottle rotation and thorough cleaning after trips, I have no plans to change what I'm doing either for leeching or bacteria. Hopefully what I am doing is good enough.
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Post by ErnieW on Oct 4, 2022 9:36:25 GMT -8
I gave up Nalgene bottles long ago. They are heavy. I don't need sturdy in a water bottle beyond not leaking. The lighter nylon ones seemed to always to pick up smell and the Lexan ones are very heavy.
I have an abundance of hot peppers this year so I bought some stuff to ferment some of them. My first test batch of pickles are fermenting in the pantry right now. One of the things I bought was a bottle of Star San. Its an acid you dilute to spray on your equipment to make sure you are growing the culture you want not some guest. Widely used by home brewers. Diluted it is food and people safe. You spray it on and leave it. No need to wash it off. Washing would usually recontaminate the stuff. Possibly not so good for some plastics if left on for a long time.
Anyway, I know people here have offered the many ways they clean their bladders and tubes. Has anyone ever tried Star San? Brewers run it through their tubing to make sure it is sterile.
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Post by zeke on Oct 4, 2022 9:51:05 GMT -8
fermenting in the panty right now. Gave me a chuckle, but you might want to edit.
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