schlanky
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Post by schlanky on Jul 6, 2022 13:43:09 GMT -8
Yes---assuming that question was for me.
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Post by cweston on Jul 6, 2022 13:49:47 GMT -8
I usually put the bladder in an exterior pocket. I also usually carry a small (soda-sized bottle of extra water, which is both my cushion against inattention and my bottle for mixing flavored drinks, since I don’t want that stuff in the bladder. It’s hard to beat the ability to drink early and often, as I often suffer from a dry mouth. On my current trip, just a daypack, I opted to skip the bladder and use a couple of bottles, which I’ve been having no trouble getting in and out of the pack even while hiking. This has me wondering if I want to convert to a pair of Smart Water bottles for backpacking, but probably not I can’t pull bottles out of the pockets in my daypack very easily. I tried the smart water bottles in the pockets of the ULA Circuit. I can reach them fine, but I worry all the time about them falling out. Rational or not, I don’t need that stress.
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ErnieW
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Post by ErnieW on Jul 6, 2022 14:32:41 GMT -8
Yes---assuming that question was for me. Yes, thank you but it can also be for everyone else.
I started long ago with an MSR (I believe. heavy one with its own padded pack) then went to Platypus before I gave them up.
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Post by BigLoad on Jul 6, 2022 15:58:20 GMT -8
I use mainly Platypus, along with MSR Dromlite and the horrendously spelled Nalgene Cantene. I usually have at 12+ liters of capacity in my pack. I really dislike carrying that much water, but the destination determines what's necessary.
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Post by rebeccad on Jul 6, 2022 22:32:31 GMT -8
I also use Platy bags, the super light ones with a narrow mouth. Harder to fill but I mostly am filling in streams and can find a little waterfall.
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Post by dayhiker on Jul 9, 2022 15:30:25 GMT -8
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WJLQCFT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1Dont know how well it works EDIT ONE could take a reserve tank or bottle. I think VWa used to do this instead of a gauge, just switch gas tanks. Might not be able to flip switch but at least you would have water. Should have some idea of what you have used before than? Of course carrying that much extra water might not be ideal, if watering holes are that far apart a rest stop, and check might be better? Where I hike (most of the time) there is plenty of water, so I can often take no water, or use a water bottle filter and throw out what I dont drink right away, or carry some to next water spot if it is hot and they far between.
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Post by Lamebeaver on Jul 15, 2022 17:55:11 GMT -8
Über geeky, but one could fit a wireless pressure transducer and take measurements at various levels. Connect this to your phone via bluetooth and you have a high-tech water level gauge. Make one, patent it and pitch it to all of the bladder manufacturers. The come back here any pay me a commission, or I will use this post to prove I thought of it first and create a competing product.
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Post by leadbelly on Jul 22, 2022 7:17:20 GMT -8
avoid the issue by refilling along the way - see a good water source, stop for a snack, add water (i used a lifestraw peak on my last multi-day hike). or, simple, carry an extra liter in a bottle.
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Post by zeke on Jul 22, 2022 8:10:31 GMT -8
I've been waiting for the real answer. Like, when the tube makes that noise a straw makes in the bottom of a cup, it's empty.
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Post by BigLoad on Jul 22, 2022 10:02:27 GMT -8
I've been waiting for the real answer. Like, when the tube makes that noise a straw makes in the bottom of a cup, it's empty. That method is pretty accurate.
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Post by ErnieW on Jul 22, 2022 10:20:49 GMT -8
Actually I came up with an idea. Put a small lightweight plastic cage in your hydration bladder. What it would do would be stop you from sucking that last, let's say pint, out of the bladder with the tube. If you want that last pint you will have to get the bladder out and manually drink the remaining water out of it. It doesn't tell you how much is left but it would give you a safety margin.
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Post by dayhiker on Jul 23, 2022 15:12:01 GMT -8
I dont use a bladder so these ideas may not work: 1) Run the tubing outside the pack, but not between the pack and your back. Release the water in the tubing by opening the bite valve without sucking up water, ie let air flow in. Look at tubing on outside of pack, whould be same height as bladder? Would risk tubing to abrasion. (Could even mark with approx water level) 2) With a bladder with a quick disconnect, disconnect tubing going thru pack to mouth. Probably easier to lift bladder to see how it is, at this point. But one could attach another tube and suck water up and then see at what height water stops flowing from siphon effect. (Waste water!) (Or what level the water starts to flow when you lower it down? This shows the quick connect, and it happens to use a pack that looks like you could just unzip to see how much water is left in bladder? www.rei.com/product/168659/gregory-3d-hydro-reservoir-3-litersEdit A more approximate method might be to let the water drain back, (as above) but then simply see how much sucking you have to do to get the water back up? (How many breathes?)
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Post by rebeccad on Jul 23, 2022 20:17:00 GMT -8
I've been waiting for the real answer. Like, when the tube makes that noise a straw makes in the bottom of a cup, it's empty. That method is pretty accurate. I keep air out of my water bladder, so no sucking sound. I know it’s empty when no more water comes out.
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Post by rangewalker on Jul 27, 2022 5:34:23 GMT -8
It would be nice to know how much is my water bladder but not a need for me. I have gone back and forth over the years and now use a mix of water containers and delivery. I cut my bladder back to 2 liter to keep better control of consumption and have a 750 ml bottle for electrolyte consumption. The smaller bladder also is easier to insulate in the colder months. My pack fleet is mostly Osprey and all except the mothership 110 Argon were designed to shield the bladder from the bumps and scrapes of trail life. Running dry with the two-liter means I must stop, refill, and eat more. trying to fit a canister in the pack is tougher trying to get around a 3 liter bladder too.
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Post by desert dweller on Jul 27, 2022 6:25:50 GMT -8
avoid the issue by refilling along the way - see a good water source Must be nice to "just see" good water sources along the way. Doesn't happen much in the desert.
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