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Post by cweston on Feb 17, 2022 7:28:15 GMT -8
Opening the cooler definitely shortens the cold Right. When I read about rebeccad's strategy of leaving a cooler in the car at a campsite (to avoid having to lift it), this was my first thought--by making it less convenient to access, you get the side benefit that you'll probably open it less frequently.
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Post by rebeccad on Feb 17, 2022 7:56:19 GMT -8
I like the idea of two smaller coolers, one of which gets opened much less often. But the insulating quality of smaller coolers having been discussed here and noted as poor (also my experience), I’m not sure I care for that idea. Shifting the day’s drinks and lunch-making to a smaller cooler, maybe even the soft-sided bag in the morning could be helpful, though, especially on hot-weather trips.
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Post by desert dweller on Feb 17, 2022 8:20:55 GMT -8
I’ve got an RTIC coffee mug that works great. It was a gift so don’t know how much. I've had this Thermos mug for over 15 years. It still keeps my coffee hot for 4 or 5 hours. It gets filled with coffee every morning before work. It's so tough you could use it for a football. Stainless steel, hard rubber and vacuum insulation.
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Post by zeke on Feb 17, 2022 8:24:52 GMT -8
When I'm driving, my quilt is always over the cooler. Easy enough to leave it until last to move into the shelter.
About that opening frequently thing, The guide I learned about temperature loss is that every time you open the oven to check on the food, you lose 100º. It takes a while for the oven to get back up to temp. Applying that to a cooler, which has no way to get cold again other than the ice inside, you can see how much cold air loss one might get with frequent opening.
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Post by jazzmom on Feb 17, 2022 9:27:38 GMT -8
I like the idea of two smaller coolers, one of which gets opened much less often. But the insulating quality of smaller coolers having been discussed here and noted as poor (also my experience), I’m not sure I care for that idea. Shifting the day’s drinks and lunch-making to a smaller cooler, maybe even the soft-sided bag in the morning could be helpful, though, especially on hot-weather trips. That was my conclusion too, and why I "invested" in a high-end 20 Qt cooler that's manageable weight-wise, easy to keep efficiently filled, doesn't need to be constantly replenished with new ice. I use the second 20 Qt cooler - the soft Yeti or the AO - as the auxiliary one, mostly for things that aren't really perishable but preferably cold, like drinks, drinking water, some fruits/veg, actual ice cubes for putting in drinks, etc. And as I eat my way through the food, I consolidate everything in the hard cooler. But having all that, last year we did a frontcountry weekend up north and I had three 23 year old guys to feed... I took the old big coolers. The boys went out every evening for ice cream and ice, did all the carrying, and the coolers were a mess of food. It was easy. 
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Post by reuben on Feb 17, 2022 14:07:29 GMT -8
Say what? Marmie bought a $35 Yeti bottle?
You've gone full frappuccino hipster bro with a man bun. Your cred is shred.
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Post by ErnieW on Feb 17, 2022 15:59:05 GMT -8
Another thing these high end coolers offer is bear resistance. You can put locks on them and they are tough enough to resist a bear assault. I believe in some places this is required on coolers
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Post by cweston on Feb 17, 2022 17:22:23 GMT -8
I had a moment to kill this evening and popped into a Dick's Sporting Goods store to look at the coolers, inspired by this discussion. I am literally dumbfounded at the cost of Yeti coolers. Not so much the big, hard-sided ones: they are very expensive, but "incrementally" more than the comparable models by other brands. But the relatively small, soft coolers? Jesus drinking gin from the cat dish. I literally can't believe what they cost. I know that this is really preachy, and I try not to be that guy *too* often. But if you can afford to consider paying $300 for a small, soft-sided cooler, please consider buying a regular one, and giving the remaining $250 to a charity, arts organization, etc. Or buy yourself a tent or quilt instead, and give your old one to crawford 's organization. (Descending now from high horse.)
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Post by jazzmom on Feb 17, 2022 19:13:41 GMT -8
But the relatively small, soft coolers? Jesus drinking gin from the cat dish. I literally can't believe what they cost. Nuts, right? Last year, I bought one of the RTIC soft coolers to give as gift. It was on sale for $89, normally $119. The Yeti version is $300!
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Post by BigLoad on Feb 17, 2022 20:13:44 GMT -8
Count me among those who wouldn't in this case, but I've sprung for a few luxuries.
In actual practice, by far our most frequent cooler use is salvaging refrigerator contents during winter power outages, roughly a week per year, sometimes more. Under those circumstances even a fancy cooler probably would have paid for itself several times over. (We use a polyethylene Coleman cooler from 1987.)
Apart from that, I'm too lazy to use a cooler for other purposes very often. They're big and unwieldy and usually need cleaning after use. Therefore I live on oatmeal and peanut butter sandwiches.
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Post by rebeccad on Feb 18, 2022 7:54:33 GMT -8
As long as BigLoad has brought up the issue of mess in a cooler, I keep that at a minimum. I start out with a large block of ice frozen in a wide-mouthed plastic container that once held dried fungus from Costco 😄. When I need to renew the ice (usually after 3 days), I refill it with cubed ice. Not as efficient as blocks, but the melt is contained and the cooler doesn’t end up full of yucky water. It’s a little smaller than a typical block of ice, so it doesn’t take up 1/3 of the cooler, either.
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Post by BigLoad on Feb 18, 2022 7:59:49 GMT -8
Whenever I use a cooler it somehow ends up with mud on it (or in it) somewhere. How it gets there is one of the mysteries of the universe.
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Post by ErnieW on Feb 18, 2022 13:16:00 GMT -8
In our working cooler we try to run it dry. Two freezer ziplocks of ice usually placed on top of everything so the cold goes down. We refill them as needed. We can have milk without it floating as it starts to get empty and makes a mess of the cooler.
Maybe I should of said the working food cooler. Depending on the trip we also run a working beer cooler. That is a wet cooler so the beer, juice boxes and sometimes water bottles are very cold.
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Post by jazzmom on Feb 18, 2022 13:32:37 GMT -8
I freeze water in Nalgene bottles. Use the melted water and refill with bought ice if needed.
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Post by marmotstew on Feb 19, 2022 8:59:19 GMT -8
Say what? Marmie bought a $35 Yeti bottle? You've gone full frappuccino hipster bro with a man bun. Your cred is shred. Nothin like riding down to the coffee shop on my one wheel to nosh on some avocado toast dipped in bone marrow soup while listening to some bon iver. It takes a lot of money to look like I don’t care brah.
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