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Post by bradmacmt on Feb 4, 2022 14:37:15 GMT -8
If a “windshirt” sort of thing to replace or supplement fleece, I’d go with a dedicated windshirt over some sort of wicking crewneck or zip-t. That was going to be my suggestion, but you beat me to it. There are all manner of light wind shirts out there (think runners). I'd put a silk-weight zip t-neck under it (like the OR Echo LS). I think two lightweight garments are more versatile and make more sense than trying to accomplish the goal with one garment (which probably doesn't exist). The OR Foray was mentioned, and I have several of them (great garment!), but it's really too warm for backpacking in most summer conditions. I use mine over a light zip-t in the spring, fall and winter.
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Post by trinity on Feb 4, 2022 15:23:36 GMT -8
I went for a run this morning it was about 18 degrees with 20mph winds. I wore a thin merino baselayer, with a thin 1/4 zip fleece and a very light full-zip windshirt. I stayed plenty warm, and had plenty of venting options as I began to generate heat. I think windshirts are an underutilized clothing item.
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Post by leadbelly on Feb 8, 2022 12:58:45 GMT -8
ll bean's basic mountain anorak is a nylon shell, not a particularly tight weave, priced reasonably. i have one, oversized, that i often throw in a day pack and might pull on when it's windy. check sizing if you look at these - i saw Bean 'updated it with a modern fit,' which probably means it's more trim/tailored/athletic cut now. patagonia houdini is pricy for a wind shirt but hard to beat because they're insanely lightweight yet extremely functional - i would get this a size up too to ensure there's room to layer.
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Post by dayhiker on Feb 14, 2022 19:19:40 GMT -8
I usually think of a very light loose shirt to protect from sun, bugs. If it is cold I wear a base layer sometimes just a T, a wool shirt and rain jacket, but usually don't have the last 2 on for long. I just did a hike and to my surprise I had the wool shirt on for a fairly long way, though unbuttoned. Cool enough and the hike at first was only slightly uphill for awhile.
I think the wool (Pendelton) would work like the shirt HSF suggested. Tight knit but breathes. High wind would cool off the surface of the shirt so colder, and might penetrate the shirt so that would be colder too. Still I think exercise level and change in temps or sun/shade would be more of a problem so in the end I agree with you that a layering approach would be needed. A wool shirt and a wind breaker might be a good combo, though I usually take a rain coat as it might be needed most days in the PNW, esp if you have an unplanned night out.
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Post by swiftdream on Feb 25, 2022 15:46:35 GMT -8
Can’t use fleece while hiking even around 20° but a silk weight t-shirt and a silk weight long sleeve crew with my old MARS edition Patagonia Houdini which is very breathable works for me in most cold conditions around freezing. Got a light weight down jacket and pants in the pack but never wear them hiking. My newer pullover Houdini is not as breathable. I do like the REI Sahara shirt for sun protection and cold mornings with little breeze. Layers are the only thing that works for me.
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Post by BigLoad on Feb 25, 2022 18:08:33 GMT -8
I do like the REI Sahara shirt for sun protection and cold mornings with little breeze. I wish they still made the Mojave shirt. The Sahara is the next best thing for me.
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Post by swiftdream on Mar 7, 2022 11:26:00 GMT -8
I do like the REI Sahara shirt for sun protection and cold mornings with little breeze. I wish they still made the Mojave shirt. The Sahara is the next best thing for me. Looking at images online I can’t tell what is different but even the Sahara line evolves from time to time. My Sahara shirts are probably almost ten years old now and have some color fading but still work for both cold weather and sun protection in hot weather. I hate clothes shopping so they will be worn until they start ripping. Lol
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Post by BigLoad on Mar 7, 2022 11:43:05 GMT -8
Looking at images online I can’t tell what is different but even the Sahara line evolves from time to time. The key differences are long pit zips that open to mesh vents and a collar that unfolds to 3x the stowed height.
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Post by swiftdream on Mar 7, 2022 13:32:03 GMT -8
Looking at images online I can’t tell what is different but even the Sahara line evolves from time to time. The key differences are long pit zips that open to mesh vents and a collar that unfolds to 3x the stowed height. That makes sense. The Sahara is pretty much a simple shirt. North Face used to sell a shirt with pit zips and I still have one. Those were some excellent shirts. That was before they acquired new owners quite some time ago.
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Post by rebeccad on Mar 8, 2022 18:20:21 GMT -8
Pit zips would chafe on me. I want smooth fabric. But I don’t mind the mesh vents—except when the bugs are fierce and bite there.
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Post by BigLoad on Mar 8, 2022 18:38:43 GMT -8
Pit zips would chafe on me. I want smooth fabric. But I don’t mind the mesh vents—except when the bugs are fierce and bite there. They're pretty well executed. The mesh prevents the zippers from making skin contact, open or closed. It's easy to forget they're even there. Sometimes I grab the wrong shirt in cold weather and forget that it's one with the zips still open until the chill hits me.
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Post by rebeccad on Mar 8, 2022 18:57:09 GMT -8
You might be right. But my skin sensitivity is at "princess and pea" level, so I'm very cautious about such things!
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Post by BigLoad on Mar 8, 2022 19:15:54 GMT -8
You might be right. But my skin sensitivity is at "princess and pea" level, so I'm very cautious about such things! I know what you mean. I have to take the labels out of most shirts because of how they chafe my neck.
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Post by swiftdream on Mar 9, 2022 11:56:44 GMT -8
I always wear an UnderArmor t under a long sleeve nylon or polyester shirt that buttons so it can be opened when hot with the t barricading that sun with coloring effects. The pit zips never gave me any pause but I guess you would have to try the particular shirt to really know.
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