driftwoody
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Post by driftwoody on Dec 23, 2021 17:42:28 GMT -8
My old Thermarest served me well in the "shoulder" seasons, so the R-value must be pretty good.
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Post by bushmaster on Dec 28, 2021 9:05:53 GMT -8
Have a possibly stupid question. I just bought my first hammock, the blackbird double. i also have a sleep pad from my ground pound days that I realize will move around in the hammock. Under quilts are out of the question, at least for this time due to the expense. I don't do winter except for hibernating. Anyway, I watched a video and this guy said for a little extra warmth during summer months, that placing an emergency blanket between the layers will add some warmth and not move around like a pad would. Does this sound like it may work?
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Post by cweston on Dec 28, 2021 9:14:45 GMT -8
Anyway, I watched a video and this guy said for a little extra warmth during summer months, that placing an emergency blanket between the layers will add some warmth and not move around like a pad would. I'm not a hammock camper, but yes, it absolutely will add some insulation by holding your body heat in more efficiently than without it. The tricky part would be making it stay in place (and not be too noisy), I would think.
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Post by swmtnbackpacker on Dec 28, 2021 9:21:04 GMT -8
I’ve gone the “half and half” route after several nights of an inflator that deflated in the middle of most nights .. and a flat on the ground wake up (made roll up in the morning easier though!!). A foam pad for safety, keeping sharps away from the inflatable, etc.. and the inflatable more for comfort. If something happens to the inflatable, I can find a leaf bed to boost the light foam .. that’s the theory anyways.
So it’s a small sized Uber-lite on a thinpad foam or Z-lite CCF .. or regular Xlite on thinpad.
Could admittedly take a chance on another Xlite only, but not letting it out of the inner net tent (think it hit a thorny desert bush when I quickly set up camp in the dark on San Jacinto). Would definitely bulk both up for winter.
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Post by ErnieW on Dec 28, 2021 10:05:54 GMT -8
Have a possibly stupid question. I just bought my first hammock, the blackbird double. i also have a sleep pad from my ground pound days that I realize will move around in the hammock. Sorry if this an obvious question but you are putting the pad between the two layers correct? When I was using a pad I found that once I got it in place between the layers and my weight on it it didn't shift much. When I left and came back to the hammock I would have to get it in position again. I actually preferred my Nemo Switchback CCF to my Thermorests for this. The dimples seemed to make for good trapped air space and was stickier than my Thermorests so it stays in place better.
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Post by zeke on Dec 28, 2021 10:48:34 GMT -8
I find my pad stays in place just fine, in my WBBB. My 200 lbs seems to pin it down just fine. I use a closed cell pad, cut into pieces, for the parts of me that the sleeping pad doesn't adequately protect from wind passing through the fabric.
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Post by bushmaster on Dec 28, 2021 11:02:27 GMT -8
The pad I have is a klymit V insulated, so It's not one of those narrow pads. Just trying to figure how to get pack weight down some from the pads pound and half. I haven't set the hammock up yet as it would need constant attention due to my neighbors stupid cats which choose to sleep on any soft material.
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Post by texasbb on Dec 28, 2021 12:54:15 GMT -8
Anyway, I watched a video and this guy said for a little extra warmth during summer months, that placing an emergency blanket between the layers will add some warmth and not move around like a pad would. I'm not a hammock camper, but yes, it absolutely will add some insulation by holding your body heat in more efficiently than without it. I'm not a hammocker and don't really know what "layers" the reflective blanket would go between, but unless there's a gap between the reflective surface and the next layer, you will not get any benefit from it. If there is a gap, then yes, the emergency blanket would help a little.
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Post by geezinbutnotweezin on Jan 2, 2022 6:55:33 GMT -8
For backpacking, I've been pretty much settled on the Sea to Summit "ultralight insulated mat" for a while now. 3 seasons (R3.3). Makes sense to me - Sea to Summit Ether Light XT Insulated Air Sleeping Mat large 22 oz 3.2 R value pack size 4.75 x 11 in / 12 x 28 cm 4" thick, 6 feet 6 inches long and the other compelling factor - "The uprated 30D / 40D face fabric is quiet and durable"
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Post by ErnieW on Jan 2, 2022 8:04:58 GMT -8
I'm not a hammock camper, but yes, it absolutely will add some insulation by holding your body heat in more efficiently than without it. I'm not a hammocker and don't really know what "layers" the reflective blanket would go between, but unless there's a gap between the reflective surface and the next layer, you will not get any benefit from it. If there is a gap, then yes, the emergency blanket would help a little. Placed between the two layers of WB double it would definitely cut down on radiation heat loss. They are good at that but it is likely a small factor in the overall heat loss. Also the hammock fabric is breathable and since the those blankets aren't they would stop convective. They have little to no R value so you would be conducting to the air temp like there was nothing there.
I know from using just hammocks on day hikes/at camp if the air temp is even in the low 60's F the hammock can feel kind of cool (for me and I am warm). A reflective blanket might give you a few degrees cooler before this happens.
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Post by Coolkat on Sept 14, 2022 4:14:21 GMT -8
I guess I've been living under a rock when it comes to this. Very old news to most of you but it's new to me. For years now I have been using a piece of fabric from an old pair of Frog Togg pants to sit on but for my upcoming fall color hike I've purchased a "sit pad". At 1oz (I'll double check that when it comes in) it looks a lot better than my thin piece of frog togg fabric. www.amazon.com/STKYGOOD-Waterproof-Backpacking-Mountaineering-Trekking/dp/B07RGD37M5/?th=1
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Post by zeke on Sept 14, 2022 4:39:53 GMT -8
I cut a section from an old closed cell pad for this. Later on I'll weigh it to see how it compares.
ETA: I weighed and measured mine. It is 20 x 11 and weighs in at 2 oz.
My wife got a chuckle out of the exercise, as she commented "It isn't even mid Sept and you backpackers are already in full on cabin fever, weighing gear to compare notes."
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Post by texasbb on Sept 14, 2022 6:36:13 GMT -8
I buy one of these for about $15 and cut it into multiple sit pads. I like mine 18x12 inches...I can get six out of the standard 72x20 blue pad. (You could actually get six 20x12 pads, but that's bigger than most would need.) If you can live with 18x10, you could get eight sit pads. I've given away many and have several loaners/extras leftover. The 18x12 pad I'm using now weighs 1.8 oz, and it gets lighter the longer I use it. :-)
Edit: I meant to add that it's sturdy enough to be a good knee pad when I'm kneeling at the tent door to pack up. It also serves as a door mat when I'm putting boots on in the morning, and goes under my feet where they hang over the end of my air mattress.
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Post by swiftdream on Sept 14, 2022 9:25:36 GMT -8
We have gone to some very comfy Thermarest seat pads for ultimate luxury but even the lightweight version weighs in at 4oz, heavier than closed cell foam but worth it in my pack. A good slightly slanted rock to lean the pack against for a backrest and life is perfect.
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Post by Coolkat on Sept 14, 2022 10:18:00 GMT -8
It is 20 x 11 and weighs in at 2 oz. When mine comes in I'll weight also. 1oz just doesn't seem right but who knows.
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