walkswithblackflies
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Aug 31, 2021 5:20:42 GMT -8
A few years ago, my local Walmart didn't have an item I was looking for. So I ordered on-line from a nearby store (45 minute drive). The following day, it was at the local distribution center. "Great", I thought, "I'll get it tomorrow". It then went on an adventure all throughout the midwest and southeast before finally arriving back at the local distribution center and finally to my doorstep.
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Post by FamilySherpa on Aug 31, 2021 5:34:16 GMT -8
We have a local politician who always makes a big deal about how the local pools lose money. This infuriates me. Who says they're supposed to make money? They're a service, a "perk" if you will, that a municipality supplies to it's residents. Again, they don't LOSE money, they COST money. Exactly. Imagine if city recycling services were expected to achieve financial sustainability thru aluminum cans they collected. USPS certainly has some issues. Disgruntled & unfriendly workers being one of them, which directly leads to poor, careless service. But if its ever privatized, its going to be a nightmare. Will completely alter the landscape of parcel & letter delivery.
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Post by bradmacmt on Aug 31, 2021 5:37:57 GMT -8
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Travis
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Post by Travis on Aug 31, 2021 5:45:50 GMT -8
August 11, 2021, 1:05 pm Shipment Received, Package Acceptance PendingWARRENTON, VA 20187 (this is where i live) August 14, 2021, 3:48 pm Arrived at USPS Facility SACRAMENTO, CA 95822 August 17 2021, Departed USPS Facility SACRAMENTO, CA 95822 Maybe you folks are better at understanding tracking messages than I am, but reading the above lines makes me wonder who messed up here, the UPS or the USPS. Or was there any mess up at all? What does "Shipment Received, Package Acceptance Pending" mean? I could read this in multiple ways. Perhaps you ordered from a company in New York, but the item was manufactured in California. And though the details of the shipment were received by the USPS on the east coast, the package itself was received on the west coast. If the USPS tracking is confusing, I don't find much hope with FedEx or UPS or lesser known shippers. I recently ordered a window from a store 80 miles away in Wyoming. Estimated delivery time was 10 days. But the tracking began with the manufacturer in Chicago. From Chicago, the tracking shows the package going to Denver, then back to Chicago and then no updates for 14 days. So I called the company I ordered from. The lady there was very helpful. She called another contact, who called another contact. And an hour later on the phone, I am told the tracking will be updated that evening. Evidently, the package did not return to Chicago but had been sitting in Denver for two weeks. Two days later I received the package. I've seen similar situations with FedEx and UPS. The USPS was not involved at all in this mild fiasco. So I'm not convinced anyone does it better.
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Post by absarokanaut on Aug 31, 2021 13:17:21 GMT -8
When Louis DeJoy was installed as Postmaster General in mid June 2020 reasonable delivery times became an unwelcome outcome. Why he he is still in office and isn't rotting in jail for leaving those sorters out in the elements and eliminating overtime right before an election with a huge mail-in component says a lot about the dysfunction some elected folks like to cultivate.
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Post by Hungry Jack on Aug 31, 2021 15:04:09 GMT -8
I order a $15.00 photo accessory from a company in NY. I live in Virginia. Normally 2 days delivery.
I just don't understand how in the world they could be losing money!
Here's the tracking record:
Order placed August 6
August 10, 2021, 11:17 am Departed Shipping Partner Facility, USPS Awaiting Item SWEDESBORO, NJ 08085 Shipping Partner: UPS MAIL INNOVATIONS
August 11, 2021, 1:05 pm Shipment Received, Package Acceptance Pending WARRENTON, VA 20187 (this is where i live)
August 14, 2021, 3:48 pm Arrived at USPS Facility SACRAMENTO, CA 95822
August 17 2021, Departed USPS Facility SACRAMENTO, CA 95822
August 18, 2021, 7:32 pm Arrived at USPS Regional Facility LOS ANGELES CA NETWORK DISTRIBUTION CENTER August 17, 2021, 11:15 am
August 19, 2021, 3:45 pm Departed USPS Regional Facility LOS ANGELES CA NETWORK DISTRIBUTION CENTER
August 24, 2021, 5:48 am Arrived at USPS Regional Facility WASHINGTON DC NETWORK DISTRIBUTION CENTER
August 27, 2021 In Transit to Next Facility
August 28, 2021, 4:42 am Arrived at USPS Regional Destination Facility LINTHICUM HEIGHTS MD DISTRIBUTION CENTER
August 29, 2021, 4:42 am Arrived at USPS Regional Destination Facility DULLES VA DISTRIBUTION CENTER
August 29, 2021, 8:55 am Departed USPS Regional Facility DULLES VA DISTRIBUTION CENTER
August 29, 2021, 10:22 am Arrived at Hub WARRENTON, VA 20187
August 30, 2021, 6:10 am Out for Delivery WARRENTON, VA 20186
August 30, 2021, 11:14 am Delivered, Front Door/Porch WARRENTON, VA 20186
Your item was delivered at the front door or porch at 11:14 am on August 30, 2021 in WARRENTON, VA 20186.
The starting point is about 171 miles from my home. 3 hrs by car, 24 days in UPS/USPS trucks. I'm really impressed!
Only in California….
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2021 7:39:49 GMT -8
August 11, 2021, 1:05 pm Shipment Received, Package Acceptance PendingWARRENTON, VA 20187 (this is where i live) August 14, 2021, 3:48 pm Arrived at USPS Facility SACRAMENTO, CA 95822 August 17 2021, Departed USPS Facility SACRAMENTO, CA 95822 Maybe you folks are better at understanding tracking messages than I am, but reading the above lines makes me wonder who messed up here, the UPS or the USPS. Or was there any mess up at all? What does "Shipment Received, Package Acceptance Pending" mean? I could read this in multiple ways. Perhaps you ordered from a company in New York, but the item was manufactured in California. And though the details of the shipment were received by the USPS on the east coast, the package itself was received on the west coast. If the USPS tracking is confusing, I don't find much hope with FedEx or UPS or lesser known shippers. I recently ordered a window from a store 80 miles away in Wyoming. Estimated delivery time was 10 days. But the tracking began with the manufacturer in Chicago. From Chicago, the tracking shows the package going to Denver, then back to Chicago and then no updates for 14 days. So I called the company I ordered from. The lady there was very helpful. She called another contact, who called another contact. And an hour later on the phone, I am told the tracking will be updated that evening. Evidently, the package did not return to Chicago but had been sitting in Denver for two weeks. Two days later I received the package. I've seen similar situations with FedEx and UPS. The USPS was not involved at all in this mild fiasco. So I'm not convinced anyone does it better. It was in stock in NJ. Shipped via some kind of bulk mail, and somebody at my local distribution center missed the package. But how it ended up shipping to CA is beyond me.
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Post by Travis on Sept 1, 2021 10:04:04 GMT -8
It was in stock in NJ. Shipped via some kind of bulk mail, and somebody at my local distribution center missed the package. But how it ended up shipping to CA is beyond me. Just curious, but where do you see that? UPS MAIL INNOVATIONS is UPS, not the US Postal Service.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2021 14:46:34 GMT -8
It was in stock in NJ. Shipped via some kind of bulk mail, and somebody at my local distribution center missed the package. But how it ended up shipping to CA is beyond me. Just curious, but where do you see that? UPS MAIL INNOVATIONS is UPS, not the US Postal Service. With some shipments they work in tandem. At some point UPS will deliver the package to the USPS distribution center for local delivery. This package had a USPS tracking number. Don't know who took it for a ride, but its here now!
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Post by franco on Sept 1, 2021 14:57:27 GMT -8
Australia Post has found a temporary solution to the congestion ...for the next four days they will not pick up any parcels from e Commerce businesses.
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Post by cweston on Sept 1, 2021 15:05:01 GMT -8
Australia Post has found a temporary solution to the congestion ...for the next four days they will not pick up any parcels from e Commerce businesses. Ha. Americans would storm the USPS headquarters and heads would roll if that happened here. You start affecting our instant access to unlimited consumer goods, and them's fightin' words.
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Post by Travis on Sept 1, 2021 16:40:10 GMT -8
With some shipments they work in tandem. At some point UPS will deliver the package to the USPS distribution center for local delivery. This package had a USPS tracking number. Don't know who took it for a ride, but its here now! What I see happening is that a local store will have "in stock" on their website when the "stockpile" they refer to is located elsewhere in the country. So if you order from a large company with franchise distributors throughout the country, each of those franchise stores may claim "in stock," meaning only that the item you order will not have to be back-ordered from the manufacturer. So, if I order a window from a Wyoming store that claims the item is "in stock," the item is actually stored in Chicago. But because I have ordered from within the local franchise's territory, the sale is credited to the local franchise, even though the stock is actually stored elsewhere. When I place the order, the national company's "stockpile" is reduced immediately by one. But the local store never touches the item. They simply get credit for the sale because the sale was made within their franchise district. But, in my case, the shipping was still done from Chicago. In your circumstances, if your local store claimed it had the item "in stock," the item still might be in California and shipping originated from California. If there is a culprit in this scenario, I don't see the USPS at fault and probably not the UPS either. The craftiness comes into play when nationwide companies market items as "in stock" AS IF already at the local store — when in fact the stock is merely somewhere within the company's nationwide stockpiles of merchandise.
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Post by reuben on Sept 3, 2021 13:53:53 GMT -8
When Louis DeJoy was installed as Postmaster General in mid June 2020 reasonable delivery times became an unwelcome outcome. Why he he is still in office and isn't rotting in jail for leaving those sorters out in the elements and eliminating overtime right before an election with a huge mail-in component says a lot about the dysfunction some elected folks like to cultivate. It's harder to get rid of some civil servants than others. I haven't really kept track, so don't take this as gospel, but apparently Biden's stacking the board to eventually get rid of him or overrule him if he's still in place.
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Post by ErnieW on Sept 14, 2021 12:03:23 GMT -8
When you think about what the USPS does, I’m astounded. No one else considers delivering an envelope for 55 cents, or whatever it costs these days. On any time frame. To send a FedEx envelope domestically would be $12.90. That's over 23 times more expensive.
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