franco
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Post by franco on Aug 7, 2021 18:19:39 GMT -8
Yama Mountain Gear. like Sahara desert, Lake Tahoe, Mississipi River and East Timor.
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Post by gabby on Aug 7, 2021 20:17:47 GMT -8
Yama Mountain Gear. like Sahara desert, Lake Tahoe, Mississipi River and East Timor. Good ones. You are the champ! (I bow to your superior understanding, grasshopper.)
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Post by franco on Aug 7, 2021 22:12:30 GMT -8
Yama Mountain Gear. like Sahara desert, Lake Tahoe, Mississipi River and East Timor. Good ones. You are the champ! (I bow to your superior understanding, grasshopper.) I know how to Google, but I also knew that there were several others examples so I just had to look for them.
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Post by almostthere on Aug 8, 2021 15:56:20 GMT -8
I hammock camp as often as I sleep on the ground. I have a bin full of shelters, bugnetted and non. I have been bitten by ants once sleeping under a tarp without bugnet. Not camping near dead and down wood helps a lot.
In other words - location, location, location. In some places you might need a full protection shelter year round. In California, once mosquitos are done, it's all about campsite choice. Cowboy camping in a coastal campsite in the redwoods might (in summer) expose one not to bugs but to coastal dripping from the trees onto you, as the fog layer rolls in at night and condenses in the leaves. In the Sierra Nevada you park yourself away from rotting logs to avoid scorpions and legions of wood ants. I go without bugnets often.
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Post by gcvrsa on Aug 17, 2021 8:00:29 GMT -8
Looks like most assumed the OP was talking about tents made by Tarptent but maybe he just meant a shaped tarp or something like that. Anyway, for the record, ALL of the Tarptents ,apart from a few models right at the start 20 years ago , are fully enclosed bugproof shelters as long as you zip them up. Of cours on some models you can use the fly only without the inner but that is deliberaste choice . It slightly aggravates me that someone named their company "TarpTent", a generic term that has existed for at least 150 years and in older outdoors literature meant a specific type of tarp pitch, which I happen to favor. So, now, when I talk about a "tarp tent", meaning a rectangular tarp pitched in such a way as to make a fully-enclosed tent, as described well by Kephart, and others in the early 20th Century, people think I am talking about a commercial product, rather than a learned skill. And to answer the OP, I "deal" with the bugs the same way our ancestors did. I use bug dope, and they mostly leave me alone, though they do enjoy congregating on the inside surface of the tarp during the night. I just chase them out in the morning.
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Post by cweston on Aug 17, 2021 8:04:49 GMT -8
It slightly aggravates me that someone named their company "TarpTent", a generic term that has existed for at least 150 years and in older outdoors literature meant a specific type of tarp pitch, which I happen to favor. I am a big fan of Tarptent's products, but I think this is a fair criticism. It's actually a little surprising to me that Henry was able to trademark that name. It’d be roughly like someone naming their car company "Sedan."
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Post by rangewalker on Aug 17, 2021 12:22:20 GMT -8
Many enthusiasts here are users of tarp type tents. Although some models have bug netting features, most are not sealed like a tent with zippered netting. How do you users deal with creepy crawling bugs like mosquitoes and spiders or critters like mice?This is a bit of a throw back, as the shaped tarp, a teepee tarp from Sierra Designs, an Origami UL ll died of sunstroke it was used so much four years ago. The floor I used so little I gifted to friend to use with an older Patagonia Pharaoh. And was only carried usually if I had friend along and used it in two person mode. If solo, and expected bugs, I often dragged along the mosquito dome in the photo. The WY-MT-SD areas I hike in have a limited bug friendly term. My first "tarp tent" was a Golite-Jardin Trig ll. Again wore out. Single wall tent really with a band of netting above a floor with fly overhang, bug door and front vestibule. A clever single wall tent. in 2022, I may pull the trigger on a 10'x 10' DCF tarp to go along my OR Highland Bivy. North Absaroka Wilderness - 1988 burn - outside Yellowstone NP Same tipi getting set up in its usual mode with a Tyvek ground sheet. - Dull Knife Pass - BLM - Wyoming
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Post by jazzmom on Aug 17, 2021 13:13:48 GMT -8
How do you users deal with creepy crawling bugs like mosquitoes and spiders or critters like mice? For me, there's a huge difference between creepy crawling bugs/critters and bugs that sting. I'm not fussed by spiders or mice or other non-stinging bugs. But if I'm hiking where there's (significant) mosquitoes or biting flies, I take a shelter with built-in bug protection, like one of the Tarptent (the brand) tents -- I have a Contrail, Squall and Rainshadow. I'm still a little traumatized from a late-snow melt July hike in Yosemite (mosquitoes) and an early July "sail-pack" trip to North Manitou Island in Michigan (black flies). For critters, I protect my food and set up my kitchen/food away from my shelter. I'm also careful not to leave food (like candy, snacks) in my pack, especially hip pockets, in camp.
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Post by franco on Aug 17, 2021 14:02:23 GMT -8
It slightly aggravates me that someone named their company "TarpTent", a generic term that has existed for at least 150 years and in older outdoors literature meant a specific type of tarp pitch, which I happen to favor. I am a big fan of Tarptent's products, but I think this is a fair criticism. It's actually a little surprising to me that Henry was able to trademark that name. It’d be roughly like someone naming their car company "Sedan." The name Volkswagen means people's car. Note that in German it is written like that so there is no distinction as there is between a tarp tent and a Tarptent. (to wit parmesan cheese is not Parmesan cheese) Volkswagen was founded in 1937. In 1933 this car , called the Standard Superior , was advertised as "deutschen Volkswagen" . (the German People's car) BTW, one could notice the similarities with the 1940 VW Beetle And... parmigiano describes a person or product that comes from Parma the same way that anything related to Rome is romano. So I am pretty sure that cheeses that came from Parma were called "parmigiano" before the name Parmigiano was registred as a brand.
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Post by Coolkat on Aug 17, 2021 16:57:25 GMT -8
Another Contrail owner! Nice. However, I must admit that I haven't used it in a long while. I got tired of the front entry.
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Post by jazzmom on Aug 17, 2021 17:10:07 GMT -8
Another Contrail owner! Nice. However, I must admit that I haven't used it in a long while. I got tired of the front entry. I'm the odd duck... I actually prefer a front entry, hence the Contrail, Squall and Rainshadow... I also have a BA Fly Creek.
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Post by tigger on Aug 18, 2021 9:19:17 GMT -8
In the Cascade range, I have used my shelters without bug netting relatively often. I usually use a tyvek floor under my sleeping pad. I've had a handful of "incidents" with shrews, scorpions, and sand fleas. I have taken to the strategy of having a DIY mesh skirt sewn/velcroed to a few of my tarp shelters. Works great for me. I prefer floorless shelters now and would choose one over a bathtub floored shelter. Mainly, it's to shave weight. I've found that my concerns of getting flooded out or swarmed with bugs are not nearly as much of an issue as I had assumed.
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Post by rebeccad on Aug 28, 2021 6:48:41 GMT -8
jazzmom, about those front entry tents… you are either truly weird or a great deal more agile than I am. I’m not wild about that aspect of my Protrail, but accept the awkwardness for light weight. The problem is increased by the pole in the middle of the doorway, of course.
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