rangewalker
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Post by rangewalker on May 4, 2021 17:46:56 GMT -8
Here is another vote for marmot Precip pants though I have two pair of TNF Hyvent rain pants. The TNFs are cut slimmer in the legs and make great wind pants for cycling and walking. Maybe what the OP needs to do is cruise the sale rack on runners swag. The mark down from no name runners clothes from hikers is considerable. Next bet is BassPro-Cableas private label.
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BigLoad
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Post by BigLoad on May 4, 2021 18:12:46 GMT -8
The membrane on my 1995 Precip pants has finally worn through at several key spots. I also use them for XC skiing and shoveling snow, the latter accounting for the vast majority of their time in use. I have another full-zip pair in better condition, but I keep that for winter trail use only. I plan to buy another pair of Precip pants soon.
I also have some Frogg Toggs, which are reasonably functional, but they're absurdly voluminous and don't perform quite as well. They weigh about the same.
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jazzmom
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Post by jazzmom on May 5, 2021 7:32:01 GMT -8
So, I think current Precips (since 2013-14 or so?) uses their "NanoPro" membrane fabric which is the same type of membrane as Hyvent (TNF). This is an interesting article about these technical fabrics that explains membrane technology and the waterproofness/breathability ratings. Also has a handy table of popular fabrics and their ratings. I'm a big fan of Goretex Paclite when weight is a factor, eVent when it's not (e.g. dry suits for kayaking.) www.paddypallin.com.au/blog/all-about-waterproof-fabrics/Also, FWIW, you can buy Hyvent and Pertex Shield fabrics by the yard. If you can do any basic sewing, rain pants is an easy project. Another easy sewing project is a cuben fiber (DCF) rain skirt.
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Post by cweston on May 5, 2021 9:44:22 GMT -8
This is an interesting article about these technical fabrics that explains membrane technology and the waterproofness/breathability ratings. Also has a handy table of popular fabrics and their ratings. Interesting--thanks for sharing that. There are definitely trade-offs with the different fabrics. The best-breathing WPB jackets I've owned actually seem not to offer much wind protection or general warmth when idle in camp, but the breathability is appreciated when I'm forced to wear in on the trail. Since I basically never wear rain pants on the trail, I don't think I even want super-max breathability. I want them to be WP and to provide some protection from the wind and cold, which might mean choosing different fabrics. They only need to be breathable enough to not be uncomfortable in low-activity camp wear.
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