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Post by cweston on Feb 22, 2021 7:09:40 GMT -8
FWIW, if someone could actually make a shell that fulfills the "promise" of the miracle breathable fabrics, to keep me dry both from without and from within in 45 degree temps and rain while I climb hard with a full pack, I actually might pay $800 for that.
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Post by rebeccad on Feb 22, 2021 11:42:44 GMT -8
I'm obviously behind the times. I still think $150 is a lot to pay for a shell, and a base layer is pricey at $35. OTOH, I was willing to pay $500 for a tent that's light enough I can carry it and a week's food.
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Post by hikerjer on Feb 22, 2021 20:23:50 GMT -8
if someone could actually make a shell that fulfills the "promise" of the miracle breathable fabrics, to keep me dry both from without and from within in 45 degree temps and rain while I climb hard with a full pack, It's on the shelf right next to the dehydrated water. |
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Post by rachelsdad on Feb 23, 2021 1:20:14 GMT -8
I spent less than $800 last week on essential gear. I bought a new Precip and a 1977 Guild D-25.
I've looked around and researched till my eyes bled but for when I need a hardshell, (moderate to hard rain), for MY backpacking activities I really can't find fault in the Precip. Are there "better" jackets out there in a technical sense, I'm sure, but for hiking in the rain in 3 season weather it does everything I need. Mountaineers of course have much different needs
I do have one Arc'teryx piece, its a 1/8th zip mini waffle fleecey type material top. Odd ball green color that I happen to like, unless I'm under florescent lighting. Bought it at Marshalls a few years back for $49, (hit every Marshalls in town for a week looking for more). I'll admit it was pure vanity that drove me to it but it has held up well. Come to think of it though, it's never been in my pack. More of a boulevard piece I guess!
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Post by panatomicx on Feb 23, 2021 13:29:49 GMT -8
I have never paid that much for a shell, but let me tell you-Those new Smartwool heavyweight baselayers are the most warm, comfortable , and durable things I have ever worn!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2021 7:07:42 GMT -8
if someone could actually make a shell that fulfills the "promise" of the miracle breathable fabrics, to keep me dry both from without and from within in 45 degree temps and rain while I climb hard with a full pack, It's on the shelf right next to the dehydrated water. But they told me mine was 'on the truck' and the discount refund was 'in the mail'................. |
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Post by Crockett on Feb 24, 2021 9:34:22 GMT -8
If it cost so much I would want to change before starting a camp fire, well...no thanks.
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Post by tipiwalter on Feb 24, 2021 11:17:37 GMT -8
I got my Arcteryx Alpha SV back in 2009 and it's still going strong in 2021.  Here it is in its youth in 2009---(and I sure didn't pay $800 for the thing . . . more like $500. |
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Post by tipiwalter on Feb 24, 2021 11:20:46 GMT -8
And here it in old age after 12 years of hard use---  Buy quality once and forget about it. Case in point: I paid $200 for a top of the line Marmot rain jacket and in 2 years it had small holes here and there. I wasted $200 and should've got the Arcteryx right in the beginning. The Arcteryx has saved my butt dozens of times on butt cold trips in bad conditions. The Proshell makes all the difference, |
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Post by franco on Feb 24, 2021 15:00:54 GMT -8
If $500 in 2009 turns out to be more like $580... that is about $700 now, so not all that different .
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Post by tipiwalter on Feb 24, 2021 15:39:23 GMT -8
Did I mention it's going strong after 12 years of hard use and 110 backpacking trips???
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Post by driftwoody on Feb 24, 2021 15:59:26 GMT -8
Did I mention it's going strong after 12 years of hard use and 110 backpacking trips??? Yeah but who's counting? I mean, are you sure it's not 109 or maybe 111 backpacking trips during that time span? Just busting your chops. Sounds like you bought an excellent piece of gear and are very happy with it. I've gone through at least 3 shells during that time, and none of them would have protected me as well in severe weather. Looks like you made the better choice. |
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Feb 24, 2021 17:06:45 GMT -8
Immortal gear = sooner or later, outdated gear, IMHO. Sure I love my Trailwise Ventile mountain parka and my Sierra Designs 60/40 mountain parka: but I'm not about to grab either in lieu of one of my current GoreTex ones.
Progress happens, even in things as apparently mature as fabrics, tents, or stoves...
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Post by FamilySherpa on Feb 25, 2021 5:19:56 GMT -8
And here it in old age after 12 years of hard use--- Buy quality once and forget about it. Case in point: I paid $200 for a top of the line Marmot rain jacket and in 2 years it had small holes here and there. I wasted $200 and should've got the Arcteryx right in the beginning. The Arcteryx has saved my butt dozens of times on butt cold trips in bad conditions. The Proshell makes all the difference, Tipi have you used any of the nikwax products on it? A few years ago, I noticed my old AT jacket was no longer beading water like it used to, so i did the 2 step nikwax wash in treatment. When the process was done, i noticed a lot of the laminated seams had come apart. Probably should have just used the spray on version. |
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Post by tipiwalter on Feb 25, 2021 5:38:52 GMT -8
Family sherpa---No treatment but occasional washing with goretex soap.
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