driftwoody
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Post by driftwoody on Feb 23, 2021 17:30:25 GMT -8
My 8R was $12.25, a great stove in it's day. My first stove was something very similar to that. I know I don't have the box and I doubt I still have the stove, but perhaps I'll find it in my next excavation.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Feb 23, 2021 17:40:07 GMT -8
The box is a bit of a puzzle at the moment. My one guess is the requirement for preheating meant it was pretty sooty so I might have kept it boxed to isolate it. Nothing quite like petroleum soot for messiness.
I do keep some boxes: electronic and optical gear I might need to return for service. But backpacking gear? Not really.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2021 19:15:03 GMT -8
This wind screen works very well, and is the setup I use. Works great with a wide flame burner, but you need a narrowish pot. Designed to work with the Optimus Weekend HE type. That looks pretty good! When you say narrowish pot, what diameter are you talking about? the pot I use is 4.9" wide x 6.5" tall.
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Post by bradmacmt on Feb 24, 2021 5:59:12 GMT -8
My 8R was $12.25, a great stove in it's day. That's the exact price of my Svea 123 in 1975. It's still going strong.
I bought an MSR XGK in the 1980's and ran boil tests with it and the Svea. The 123 consistently boiled water faster than the XGK which was supposed to be the expedition/snow melting stove extraordinaire. I sent the MSR back to REI.
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Post by driftwoody on Feb 28, 2021 5:14:21 GMT -8
The Olicamp Kinetic Ultra Titanium Stove and Hard Anodized STS Pot have been delivered. My next task was to craft a windscreen for this set. After browsing myriad DIY jobs I came up with the solution below. My wife had a lightweight disposable aluminum cake pan left over from Christmas (hence the red decorative theme) which I flattened. I set the pot on top and bent it up around the bowl, folding the creases. It was a rectangular pan, so I cut the rim to make a (mostly) even height, then folded about 1/8" around the top to eliminate the sharp edge and give it some strength. It's a single piece, so I had to cut a slot along the bottom and an opening in the front to insert it around the stove. I didn't see a need to have a windscreen all the way from the ground up, because all that really needs screening from the wind is the flame. I also wanted a heat reflector from underneath, and this has that as well. The real challenge was how to attach it to the stove. To accomplish that I found a lightweight aluminum bracket in my odds & ends, cut it to size, and folded it around a 5/16" drill bit (same diameter as the stove stem. The clip idea is something I came up with myself, though someone else may have done it before me. As you can see in the pic below, that piece of aluminum holds the windscreen firmly in place. It's fairly pliable and easy to remove (open at one end), yet holds its shape enough to stay in place. I don't have a finely tuned scale so I haven't weighed the screen or clip, but they are very lightweight. This next pic is a top view of the stove & screen, and the bottom of the pot with its heat exchanger. A potential problem with that pot is the bottom rim could slip off if not well centered. The windscreen solves that issue by keeping it centered. I have not actually used this yet, but am looking forward to how it performs in the backcountry.
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Post by gabby on Mar 9, 2021 16:48:43 GMT -8
I'd like to hear how this goes for you after your first trip with it.
I'm not buying one like it (wife told me, "You got enough damned pots already, you doofus!"), but I've been thinking of doing much the same thing with the lightest aluminum bowl/pan I can find. I actually have a half dozen or so sauce pans I bought at the local "Fiesta Market" (on the east side of Austin - they cater to the large contingent of Latinos over there - it's the only place you can get Imusa aluminum saucepans around here!) for this very purpose, and for a "hanging windscreen". (I have a lot of unfinished projects.)
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Post by tomqvaxy on Mar 10, 2021 1:07:46 GMT -8
the Japanese have a theory: when a man has finished all of his projects, he dies. so there's some consolation to having a cluttered workbench!
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Post by driftwoody on Mar 10, 2021 2:53:38 GMT -8
I'd like to hear how this goes for you after your first trip with it. I hope to get a few nights out at the end of this month, and will post a report. However, it won't be a scientific test of boil times with and without the screen or compared to a pot without a heat exchanger. My aim was to reduce the weight of my stove/pot/windscreen combo (already achieved) and fuel consumption. I'm confident of the latter, despite a lack of precise measurements. I'll be satisfied if this kit allows me to carry a smaller canister or fewer on a longer trip.
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Post by bluefish on Mar 10, 2021 3:33:36 GMT -8
consumption. I'm confident of the latter, despite a lack of precise measurements. I'll be satisfied if this kit allows me to carry a smaller canister or fewer on a longer trip. I have no doubt that will extend canister life at least by a third. You could do the timed burn/weigh thing in the backyard if you really want to cut it close. Nice job at a good material price.
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Post by Coolkat on Mar 10, 2021 5:03:51 GMT -8
I have no doubt that will extend canister life at least by a third. This is what I'm hoping for. I'd take 20%. This would mean that even on my 7 day trips I could take the small canister. That would a 4oz reduction not including the lighter weight of a new pot/stove combo.
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Post by bluefish on Mar 10, 2021 5:37:38 GMT -8
I've learned one way to stretch fuel is to only heat water for coffee enough to dissolve my via and chocolate mix and make it enjoyable. I only boil for food rehydration. Hot coffee is such a wasteful addiction. I'll seriously hurt you if you try to take mine away, though!
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Post by jazzmom on Mar 10, 2021 6:46:39 GMT -8
The Olicamp Kinetic Ultra Titanium Stove and Hard Anodized STS Pot have been delivered. Stove looks exactly like the Gnat that I mentioned earlier in this thread -- same dimensions, weight, even the plastic case it comes in looks exactly the same. Good looking setup but the pot is still heavy. Spec says 6.7 oz. My Toaks solo pot is 3.6 oz, even my 2L Open Country pot is lighter at 6.2 oz. It would make sense if it means you can take a smaller/fewer canisters.
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Post by driftwoody on Mar 10, 2021 7:09:30 GMT -8
jazzmom, I wanted to try a pot with a heat exchanger and wide enough to nest the larger canister. Olicamp claims 40% improved efficiency with the HE. Even if that claim is somewhat inflated, the added weight of the pot is more than offset if I can take the small canister instead or one less canister on a longer trek.
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Post by bradmacmt on Mar 10, 2021 7:26:54 GMT -8
Good looking setup but the pot is still heavy. Spec says 6.7 oz. It's actually heavier. I've had one for around 4 years. It's a fast boiler, but not as good as a Jetboil (weight to fuel use), and heavier than both my Ti and Al Jetboils. For short trips a light Ti pot and light stove will beat the Jetboil for weight, and definitely the Olicamp. For longer trips I think the Jetboil pulls away, but I've got a bunch of experimenting ahead this year...
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Post by driftwoody on Mar 10, 2021 10:23:20 GMT -8
Can you provide a link to that product?
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