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Post by starwalker on Sept 12, 2020 18:30:56 GMT -8
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Post by johntpenca on Sept 12, 2020 23:48:12 GMT -8
Tragiic
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Post by johntpenca on Sept 13, 2020 1:47:32 GMT -8
Weird that a black bear is predatory
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Post by bradmacmt on Sept 13, 2020 5:00:56 GMT -8
Weird that a black bear is predatory That assumes the bear killed the man. The man may have died of natural causes and the bear got a found meal. Will say however, fall bears are a different kind bear given the biological imperative to put on weight for the coming winter. |
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Post by mk on Sept 13, 2020 7:33:14 GMT -8
A co-worker was in Gatlinburg a month or so ago for a vacation, and she posted pictures of bears that were just hanging out near their cabin. One even opened the unlocked car door and checked out the interior. Those bears were absolutely not wary of humans, and appear to have linked humans to tasty human food. They all thought it was great fun to have wild visitors every day just a few yards away. I find it worrisome - for the people and the bears.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Sept 13, 2020 15:43:55 GMT -8
Sad news. Details are yet to be determined.
“ Rangers were working Saturday to notify the next of kin. The cause of death was unknown, and the case under active investigation, the park release said. “
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Post by johntpenca on Sept 14, 2020 2:48:32 GMT -8
Yeah Brad
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Post by sjs on Sept 14, 2020 5:18:21 GMT -8
Sad to be sure, but if you were the Park authority with the power to decide, what would you do with such a bear, even if you knew for sure that it was merely scavenging an already dead body?
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Sept 14, 2020 10:08:06 GMT -8
Sad to be sure, but if you were the Park authority with the power to decide, what would you do with such a bear, even if you knew for sure that it was merely scavenging an already dead body?
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Nothing. It was a bear being a bear. |
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Post by FamilySherpa on Sept 14, 2020 12:02:09 GMT -8
That's really sad.
I guess part of the reason they killed the bear was so they could do an investigation.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Sept 14, 2020 12:16:36 GMT -8
A bear that now would recognize humans as food rather than simply associated with food would be an intolerable visitor safety hazard.
Whether having behaved predatorilly like a few black bears up in the Canadian provincial parks have or simply, as I suspect is more likely, having scavenged on naturally caused remains.
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Post by sjs on Sept 14, 2020 12:27:16 GMT -8
Well, how far would you carry the principle of doing nothing? Let the bear continue to dine? Let it and its buddies come back over a period of days to finish the job? Those activities are also just a bear being a bear. At some point the next of kin might like the remains for burial or other form of honor and memorial.
I have heard from some with expertise that once a carnivore (or omnivore) tastes human flesh they crave it above all other food. Apparently, we are quite tasty. That can lead to an actual attack and they learn quickly that an unarmed human is far easier to catch and kill than their normal fare.
It could get messy. Of course, we could give up our mutual love affair with the wilderness and just leave it alone for the animals to enjoy. I could accept that in principle but I would find the actual practice very sad for me. Selfish, I know.
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Sept 15, 2020 5:12:15 GMT -8
Well, how far would you carry the principle of doing nothing? Let the bear continue to dine? Yes. By not recommending the euthanization of the bear I'm obviously advocating for the bear to continue eating the corpse. Actually, we should pile other corpses in the area. Maybe even some puppies. <rolls eyes> I have heard from some with expertise that once a carnivore (or omnivore) tastes human flesh they crave it above all other food. Sharknado is not valid source. Apparently, we are quite tasty. That can lead to an actual attack and they learn quickly that an unarmed human is far easier to catch and kill than their normal fare. Grass, roots, and blueberries put up a formidable defense. |
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Sept 15, 2020 5:16:10 GMT -8
A bear that now would recognize humans as food rather than simply associated with food would be an intolerable visitor safety hazard. Are you seriously suggesting that bears have no idea they could kill and eat us until after they eat human flesh? |
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Post by bradmacmt on Sept 15, 2020 5:21:41 GMT -8
The bear was shot and killed... as was appropriate.
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