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Post by rustyshackleford on Jun 12, 2017 8:11:35 GMT -8
does anyone use picaridin? ive considered switching from deet so i dont have to worry about it eating any gear and i lime that it is supposedly odorless, and nongreasy unlike deet.
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Post by texasbb on Jun 12, 2017 13:53:16 GMT -8
Every picaridin option I've tried had a strong cheap-perfume odor, added intentionally no doubt. I much prefer mosquitoes to that stench. Fortunately, there's the permethrin option that avoids both problems.
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Post by leadbelly on Jun 30, 2017 11:53:26 GMT -8
i mostly use deet-based products for mosquitoes, usually 3m ultrathon. what that doesn't deal with is gnats and black flies. this summer, i have been adding ole time woodsman bug dope, a non-deet product that has a strong pine tar odor and color, and i think it helps keep some of the others away. oletimewoodsman.com/om/ i used to use this stuff when i was guiding trips 30 years ago, and it disappeared from the retail stores at some point. a particularly black fly-filled hike encouraged me to search it out. word of warning, it very effectively repels many human beings. it stinks.
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Post by cweston on Jul 1, 2017 6:20:40 GMT -8
I rarely make fires, but sometimes when the mosquitos are bad, I'll make a small fire immediately before cooking dinner--I'll get immediately downwind of the fire to cook/eat, and the smoke helps keep the swarms down.
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Post by mocs123 on Jul 1, 2017 18:17:17 GMT -8
Long Pants and a Nylon Long sleeve shirt are the best but are not as breathable. I have found "insect shield" treatment to be longer lasting than home permethrin treatments. You have to ship your clothes to them and they treat them and ship them back. It's good for 70 70 washings and about $8-9 per garment.
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Post by ogg on Jul 3, 2017 19:55:19 GMT -8
I'm a fan of Picaradin. In my experience it works just as well as DEET against mosquitoes, if not more so. I had a DEET spill nearly ruin a pack once, so I've avoided using DEET since then.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 7:16:57 GMT -8
I am, this morning, treating our backpacking cloths, for this weekends trip with permethrin. I find permethrin works good for the biting flies.
I found Picaradin works good for biting flies and so so for skeeters. Picaradin wears off quickly when I have been working hard. The biting flies get closer and closer as the Picaradin is washed away from sweat.
I have been a fan of 3M Ultrathon for many years. I did not like the greasy feeling. We got a chance to use REPEL MAX lotion. I found REPEL to be long lasting and does not feel like greese, we switched.
When I had a double wall tent I treated the rain fly with permethrin. I thought it was neat to see a horde of skeeters hanging out, about a foot above the rain fly.
I found what I apply has a relationship with the area I am going.
Going to the Frank Church River Of No Return Wilderness biting flies are not so much of an issue. Permethrin treated cloths and REPEL, on exposed skin, works good.
Heading into the Sawtooth Wilderness, where horses are frequently used, Permethrin and DEET works good. I may, also, bring Picaradin to treat my hands and other exposed areas.
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