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Post by Lamebeaver on Jul 23, 2020 10:01:31 GMT -8
I hesitate to call this metalworking. My second attempt to make a "widget" to reduce the chance of a boiling pot slipping off of my Pocket Rocket. The raw materials are rebar-ties. The functionality is self explanatory. The trick is to wrap the wire so the ends of the pot holder don't twist in use.    |
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Post by franco on Jul 23, 2020 17:56:18 GMT -8
I had posted a solution for a different problem... |
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Post by texasbb on Jul 24, 2020 9:46:17 GMT -8
I'm a little confused as to the purpose and benefit, Lamebeaver. My initial impression would worry that it creates new failure points (e.g., where the wire levers over a stove arm) and increases the likelihood of misalignment when placing the pot. Can you elaborate? Also, what's the single wire on the table for? |
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Post by Lamebeaver on Jul 24, 2020 13:58:20 GMT -8
The single wire is one of the rebar ties (I used three of them in the construction).
The idea is that the wire sits in the notches on the stove arms, and keeps the pot from sliding off. It's not perfect, but it's a lot more secure than nothing.
My initial attempt involved wires that actually hooked into the little holes in the arms, but his was very complicated and difficult to use.
I may continue to play with this....Not that I think about it I could bend the wires so they actually cradle over the stove supports.....
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Post by franco on Jul 24, 2020 15:05:12 GMT -8
Three possible other solutions came to mind, not that I know if any will work for your set up. 1) roughen the bottom of the pot just a litle bit but enough for the stove arms to grip. 2) use magnets attached to the arms. I am thinking of those tiny supermagnets. 3) a wind screen of this type  could be much smaller, just deep enough to catch those arms. |
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Post by Lamebeaver on Jul 24, 2020 18:59:42 GMT -8
I like your windscreen Franco. I use a windscreen anyway, and this design would kill two birds with one stone.
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Post by franco on Jul 24, 2020 21:39:44 GMT -8
I hope no birds were killed during the making of your metaphor .
The one in the photo is not my windscreen but I have made something like that myself. (photo from Google Images)
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Post by driftwoody on Jul 25, 2020 4:40:44 GMT -8
franco, of what material (specific grade) is that windscreen made? Also the loop which apparently holds it together.
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Post by franco on Jul 25, 2020 17:12:58 GMT -8
I have no idea , as I stated it was just a photo from Google Images based on a search for something like that.
One that I made for myself was from the skin of soft drink cans. The natural bent keeps them on the pot but don't last for long (and would not work for the OP's need anyway) . Mostly I was playing around with some ideas at the time.
I would make one out of Ti now because that does last. (I use the Caldera Cone)
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Post by rangewalker on Jul 26, 2020 8:18:13 GMT -8
of what material (specific grade) is that windscreen made? After nearly 45 years of various MSR gas stoves, I have scraps of their windscreens. Pocket Rockets are tough to engineer around because they are so tall. I swore off the wire and went with a foil wrap with a whole star-field of holes punched in the low section to alleviate heat build-up around the canister yet baffle the breezes that were stripping BTU's from my pots. My final solution was to gift the Pocket Rocket. Then add some grams with stabilizer legs for the canister from Brunton, MSR, and now JetBoil, better stove placement with rock or pack for a windshield, and evolved my stove choices. I have not slid a pot or Ti Mug off a stove since unless swung a leg around and struck the pot. The Jetboil legs won the gram-weiner pack off. The only Jetboil product I have appreciated. and they make cool gifts. |
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Post by cweston on Jul 26, 2020 12:50:34 GMT -8
This is why I really like my Primus stove, that looks roughly like this (the pic is a much newer model of the same stove):  It can burn multiple liquid fuels, but I always use it with a canister. It's a touch heavier than a pocket-rocket style stove, but I really like the stability and ease of windscreening. |
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Post by franco on Jul 26, 2020 16:49:59 GMT -8
It depends on how you interpret "a touch heavier"
The Primus Gravity is 8.8 oz in gas mode, the Pocket Rocket is 3 oz.
But yes, many have commented on the stability or lack of with the pocket Rocket.
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Post by ErnieW on Jul 27, 2020 6:11:50 GMT -8
I have been considering adding some kind of windscreen for my pocket rocket. I hesitate because the boil times for one person cooking are relatively quick. I just use body and hands for the few minutes it takes. The other thing that makes me hesitate on a windscreen for it that you are literally playing with fire about overheating the can (see BLEVE). For that reason I am considering a stove with a hose. |
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Post by trinity on Jul 27, 2020 17:48:49 GMT -8
[article]The other thing that makes me hesitate on a windscreen for it that you are literally playing with fire about overheating the can (see BLEVE). For that reason I am considering a stove with a hose. |
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Personally, I would never use a windscreen with an upright canister stove. I have a Pocket Rocket Deluxe, the recessed burner head makes it more wind resistant than a typical upright. If I expect wind to be a major issue, I take my Kovea Spider with a windscreen. It allows for good wind protection, liquid feed in colder temps, and is much more stable than an upright. I also have a Caldera Cone that does well in wind. But I have to say that I love the PR Deluxe, very simple, light, and compact. I might make a Moulder Strip for it someday, just to help in colder temps. |
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Post by Lamebeaver on Jul 28, 2020 7:07:50 GMT -8
Attempt III. Simpler, easier to pack, and rock-solid.    |
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