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Post by cweston on Jul 15, 2020 11:17:53 GMT -8
What with the vastly improved access to topo maps these days.
I have a trip planned in the Gore range (Co) next week. I've hiked in the Gores extensively and have several custom-printed maps from MyTopo. I just got around to looking at them: the trip spans two of those maps, but there's one small area that is not on either of them.
No problem: I just screen captured exactly that portion of the map, printed it, and also saved it to my phone. I never turn my phone on during a BP trip, but it now functions as my back-up map archive, in case my paper maps should somehow be lost.
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Post by absarokanaut on Jul 15, 2020 16:04:08 GMT -8
I have several shoe boxes FULL of maps. I have way to much !@#$.
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Post by bradmacmt on Jul 15, 2020 16:04:40 GMT -8
If I understand correctly, you’re still printing and carrying maps yes? How does that make you blasé? Guess I’m not following...
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Post by rebeccad on Jul 15, 2020 17:11:28 GMT -8
Um... I have two full file drawers of topo maps and similar.
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Post by BigLoad on Jul 15, 2020 18:42:17 GMT -8
I have a big plastic bin full of folded maps, and two long cardboard tubes full of rolled maps. I have several states worth of hi-res maps on my GPS, but the little screen isn't of much use. I still like to have paper in hand, especially when the going gets tough.
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Post by cweston on Jul 16, 2020 4:23:31 GMT -8
If I understand correctly, you’re still printing and carrying maps yes? How does that make you blasé? Guess I’m not following... Just that I used to have to worry about it weeks in advance of a trip, to make sure I had the correct maps. Now we have instant access to everything, and also other options if you don't have a paper map. Plus, of course, like others have mentioned, I have a fairly extensive vault of paper maps on hand at this point.
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Post by driftwoody on Jul 16, 2020 4:30:38 GMT -8
I love maps. When backpacking I carry a paper map and have the area in the Gaia app on my cell phone.
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Post by FamilySherpa on Jul 16, 2020 4:55:44 GMT -8
I still love maps and carry them pretty often. I just don't like being reliant on batteries and GPS signal in certain areas is still not up to par. There's nothing like opening a few beers and a big map on a table for a good planning session.
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Post by bradmacmt on Jul 16, 2020 5:46:45 GMT -8
Just that I used to have to worry about it weeks in advance of a trip, to make sure I had the correct maps. Now we have instant access to everything, and also other options if you don't have a paper map. Plus, of course, like others have mentioned, I have a fairly extensive vault of paper maps on hand at this point. 10-4, understood. Maps have been one of the top tools through which I've dreamed since I was a kid. Like others here, I have a big plastic tub full. There's nothing like a cold winter evening to study new summer destinations.
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Post by cweston on Jul 16, 2020 5:57:03 GMT -8
Maps have been one of the top tools through which I've dreamed since I was a kid. Like others here, I have a big plastic tub full. There's nothing like a cold winter evening to study new summer destinations. Absolutely: I am a pretty big fan of mapsturbation myself, since when I was a kid. But using MyTopo online topo maps in full screen mode on a computer is a pretty awesome form of mapsturbation as well: you can zoom way in, follow a route off the "edge" of the map by scrolling, etc. I do find reading maps on a phone pretty limiting, though.
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Post by bradmacmt on Jul 16, 2020 6:04:05 GMT -8
"Mapsturbation"... going to remember that! :D
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Post by balzaccom on Jul 16, 2020 6:37:49 GMT -8
Maps for me. Although at least twice in the last ten years I had printed paper maps, but still took a photo of the very detailed topo map at the trailhead--mainly because I was impressed with it. And both times I ended up consulting that photo for additional detail on the map. Go figure.
But this is all very fluid. I don't take my phone backpacking, only a small point and shoot camera. But i have to admit that my phone takes better photos than this ten year-old camera, and it probably doesn't weight more, either. So why don't I just take the phone? Well, maybe battery life...maybe because I fear getting a text message...but probably just because I am a creature of habit.
And I like paper maps.
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Post by swmtnbackpacker on Jul 16, 2020 6:47:49 GMT -8
I’ll take them if not a major trail system with Guthooks. Even in the latter I’ll try to get a screenshot for general orientation.
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Post by cweston on Jul 16, 2020 6:51:02 GMT -8
I don't take my phone backpacking, only a small point and shoot camera. But i have to admit that my phone takes better photos than this ten year-old camera, and it probably doesn't weight more, either. So why don't I just take the phone? Well, maybe battery life...maybe because I fear getting a text message...but probably just because I am a creature of habit. HYOH, of course. I carry my phone, powered off, in a sealed bag. I figure, in an emergency, there's a (small) chance that I might be able to get a signal if I needed to. But mostly, I know that the chance exists that I'll end up somewhere other than where the car is: because a point-to-point hike was aborted (this has happened to me), because I had to retreat due to weather and reaching the car was not possible (this has also happened to me), etc. When that does happen, having your phone in your pack can be a real advantage. (I always leave local law enforcement and land management agency phone numbers with my wife, so a quick call to her gives me access to that info.) My habit is to pack my phone, a credit/debit card, and some cash. (All of these things were very handy the time I retreated to the "other side" of the range and was able to hire a local to drive me 100+ miles by road to my car.) Also, as I said, I like knowing that I have map images on my phone as backup, if something happens to my paper maps.
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Post by autumnmist on Jul 16, 2020 9:15:46 GMT -8
I like the juxtaposition of old vs. new, plus a touch of the practical: old paper maps, tech devices with maps, and a credit card. My preference has and will continue to be foldable maps; it's so much easier to get perspective, and they don't have to be recharged. I also don't like viewing anything on itty bitty tech device maps.
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