rangewalker
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Post by rangewalker on Jun 28, 2020 11:48:21 GMT -8
MSR Cam Rings
Not cheap at four on a card for just under $12.00. But I am I am in love with them. My new Light Heart Solo – Awning came with sections of cord and cord locks at four places for the pitch. When I did the unboxing set up I identified the need for 2-5 points where in tough ground it would help to have some extension to get around near surface rocks, roots, or even deep soft spots to set stakes. I made up four 7’ runners with loop ends using Coughlan 2.5 mm reflective cord. The green ones in the photo are Kelty 3 mm on an MSR eTarp. It is set up with six 8’ cords and Cam Rings.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Jun 28, 2020 15:57:43 GMT -8
For shelters where the cords can define the entire pitch those are a great addition. I’ve had them on my Solomid for a while, much more inclined to fine tune the setup when it’s that easy.
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Post by BigLoad on Jun 28, 2020 17:08:10 GMT -8
Whenever I see those, I wonder if how well they work. I might try them.
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Post by nextridgeover on Jul 1, 2020 4:48:29 GMT -8
Is there a vast improvement using these vs a taught line hitch? I'm not sure I'm fully grasping the benefit of these.
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Post by rangewalker on Jul 1, 2020 18:33:39 GMT -8
Is there a vast improvement using these vs a taught line hitch? I'm not sure I'm fully grasping the benefit of these. Taunt line hitch is great but when I want to fly around a shelter in the wind setting up, or trying to pull up a rain slacked silnylon sheet in the dark by feel, I will take a good line tightener over a fussy knot. A lot of the slick reflective cord I have preferred in the 2-3 mil diameter slips knots more readily that the old paracord that I used to use. That said though, there here been a lot of tighteners that should have never existed. Classic example for me were the ones that came with my early production BA Fly Creek 2 UL. The survivors after the second trip out were replaced.
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Post by BigLoad on Jul 1, 2020 18:42:15 GMT -8
rying to pull up a rain slacked silnylon sheet in the dark by feel That's my main application: in the rain at night. I don't know how many times I've stumbled out into the dark wearing (at most) a rain jacket and unlaced boots trying to keep the tent up using cold wet hands.
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Post by ErnieW on Jul 1, 2020 19:13:48 GMT -8
Would a pic of them with the line taut be possible. To see them in action? I find the round interesting.
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Post by ErnieW on Jul 1, 2020 19:18:19 GMT -8
Never mind. As soon as I posted I thought "everything is on the internet these days". The second pic is a different way.
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Post by nextridgeover on Jul 2, 2020 14:15:02 GMT -8
Taunt line hitch is great but when I want to fly around a shelter in the wind setting up, or trying to pull up a rain slacked silnylon sheet in the dark by feel, I will take a good line tightener over a fussy knot. A lot of the slick reflective cord I have preferred in the 2-3 mil diameter slips knots more readily that the old paracord that I used to use. That said though, there here been a lot of tighteners that should have never existed. Classic example for me were the ones that came with my early production BA Fly Creek 2 UL. The survivors after the second trip out were replaced. That makes sense. I still have some thicker cord on my tent compared to the newer stuff. Maybe it's time to upgrade to lighter, reflective line and locks. I'll be in the Winds next summer. If ever I'll need guy lines. Thanks
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Jul 2, 2020 15:49:07 GMT -8
For when full guylining is best in anticipation of higher winds I appreciate the reflective cord for quickly locating things by headlamp to adjust at night. And yes a lot of the modern cord materials are very slick.
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Post by ErnieW on Jul 2, 2020 15:57:05 GMT -8
For me reflective cords help stop tripping over them at night and possibly ripping the tent. Also when I go out to pee at night its easy to see where the tent is.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Jul 2, 2020 16:05:51 GMT -8
Good point! On the way back from dropping off my bear canister I’ve often appreciated that reflective highly visible web now that I think on it. Inspired me to put reflective tape on the canisters, actually.
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Post by nextridgeover on Jul 3, 2020 12:04:07 GMT -8
I love a forum where you can have fifteen posts over guy line cord and cam-locks. And it's still exciting!
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Post by gabby on Jul 3, 2020 13:59:22 GMT -8
They're all guyline tensioners, and they all work pretty much the same way. I opted for the Hilleberg style tensioners about two decades ago since that's what came with the tent. I think I bought about 100 of the things. Now they can be had on ebay for about $10 - $20 for a 25 cello pack, and they come in "glow in the dark" and, probably, just about any color you could possibly want. The "cam rings" are also attainable from various places for much less than you'll pay for the MSR version - they're all just aluminum alloy with 3 holes, so what's to go wrong?
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Post by ErnieW on Jul 3, 2020 14:45:47 GMT -8
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