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Post by Coolkat on Jun 8, 2020 8:07:46 GMT -8
I did a quick searchand didn't see anything specific about this area so I made this thread. I'm wondering what if anyone can tell me about this area. There is a strong possibility I might find myself here later this summer and am curious.
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Post by cweston on Jun 8, 2020 10:51:36 GMT -8
I think Lamebeaver has some experience in that area. Summitpost has some info on San Luis Peak and some other summits in the area.
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Post by Lamebeaver on Jun 8, 2020 15:11:51 GMT -8
burntfoot has also spent some time down there. I believe absarokanaut may have spent some time here as well. In short, it's a beautiful area, less visited than many, with some amazing vistas and a fair amount of wildlife, including Elk, Deer, Turkeys, and Moose. I would suggest getting a copy of Nat. Geo. Trails Illustrated #139. Most of the roads do not require 4WD, but I'd strongly encourage a high clearance vehicle like a pickup truck. I've spend a fair amount of time car camping on the North Side, and there are some nice spots along Chavez and Pauline Creek. The Cebola and Stewart Creek trails both nice and provide access to the Wilderness. There's one 14er, which is not difficult, but a long slog, but there are plenty of nice camping spots along the way. From the east or south side, Wheeler Geologic Areas is worth a visit, and there are plenty of loop possibilities. I'm afraid I don't have much experience west of Creede of on the west side. On some trails, I suspect you could go a long ways...perhaps several days without encountering any other people...the CDT being the Exception, or the Stewart Creek trail to San Luis Peak.
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Post by Coolkat on Jun 9, 2020 4:43:38 GMT -8
Thanks guys... I really appreciate the responses. I'm not the leader of this hike and I've never been to CO before so at this point the only thing I know is that I believe we will be starting at the Eddiesville trail head and doing some kind of loop that "might" involve summitting San Luis Peak on the last day depending how people are feeling.
Since I've never been at elevation I'm planning on camping nearby for two nights before the hike begins. Although I'm really excited about this I'm also a little concerned about the elevation. After adding topo to google earth it looks like that the Eddiesville trail head starts out at about 10k. The highest I've ever been before 7000 at the Grand Canyon south rim.
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Post by cweston on Jun 9, 2020 5:11:21 GMT -8
Hydration, hydration, hydration.
I was able to just "tough it out" when I was younger, but as I've aged (my 56th Bday is later this month), I've lost the ability to do that.
In addition to acclimation time, the single most effective thing I have found is *massive* pre-hydration, beginning several days before the hike will begin. It's quite inconvenient, of course, because traveling when you have to pee every 6 minutes is a pain.
During your pre-hike acclimation days, I recommend the old climber's adage "climb high, sleep low." Ideally, you might follow a schedule something like this:
Day 1: hike to ca. 10,000 (you want an easy, low-key hike this day) Night 1: sleep at ca. 7,000 ft
Day 2: hike to ca. 12,000 ft Night 2: sleep at ca. 9,000 ft.
Day 3: begin your BP trip.
Also, the most common symptoms of mild AMS are headache, vomiting, and loss of appetite/inability to eat. If you're a coffee drinker, don't try to go without coffee (it will just make the headache worse), and consider packing foods for your BP that you'd be able to eat (and keep down) when your stomach is queasy. I do well with bland crackers and the like.
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Post by Lamebeaver on Jun 9, 2020 6:28:21 GMT -8
After this trip, you'll be back. Make sure you come back here and share your experience.
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Post by burntfoot on Jun 9, 2020 8:37:54 GMT -8
I've done many of the trails and peaks in there. Loops involving Mineral Creek, Cascade Creek, Rough and Tumble Creek. Peaks including Organ Mountain, San Luis Peak, Stewart Peak, Baldy Alto and Baldy Chato. And, of course the Colorado Trail/Continental Divide Trail/La Garita Skyline through there.
On the south side I've been in to Wheeler Geological Area (former national monument). On that one, you need high clearance 4WD to get in there. And, wait for dry conditions. That place is like a miniature Bryce Canyon, but with white formations instead of orange.
About the only area I haven't explored much is the Machine Lake area to the east and on the north side of the divide.
My last trip to the La Garitas was my favorite. I started at Eddiesville Trailhead and hiked west via the La Garita Skyine Trail almost to highway 149, and then doubled back via the Cebolla Trail. Took me 6 days, with side trips up Organ Mountain and San Luis Peak. And, only once in 6 days did I meet anyone else. The Cebolla Trail was lower elevation, but actually harder than the Skyline Trail due to the up and down in and out of those drainages. Plus, it is hard to follow in places. I didn't need a compass, but was glad I had good map reading skills. Once I climbed up and out of Cascade Creek drainage on my last day, I had 3 or 4 hours of cross-country hiking avoiding the willows until I met up with the road heading back into Eddiesville.
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Post by Coolkat on Jun 11, 2020 4:50:37 GMT -8
You guys who are used to hiking at elevation probably couldn't care less about know what elevation you're at when you stop for breaks. However, I'm wondering is there a little gadget that I can take to tell me elevation other than my phone. I'd rather not have to access my phone every time I'd like to know.
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Post by cweston on Jun 11, 2020 5:00:10 GMT -8
There are several options out there for watches with barometric altimeter functions. They can give you fairly accurate readings as long as you calibrate to a known altitude at least once a day. (More frequently in changing weather.) Here is a fairly recent thread on the topic.
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Post by texasbb on Jun 11, 2020 5:29:43 GMT -8
There are several options out there for watches with barometric altimeter functions. They can give you fairly accurate readings as long as you calibrate to a known altitude at least once a day. (More frequently in changing weather.) Here is a fairly recent thread on the topic. ^This. I've never gotten hooked on a piece of gear faster than my first hiking altimeter.
And so you don't have to read through that whole other thread, just order one of these right now. I just replaced the battery in mine for the first time in almost 6 years. It's about 1/4 to 1/8 the price of most altimeter watches.
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Post by Coolkat on Jun 22, 2020 5:31:24 GMT -8
And so you don't have to read through that whole other thread, just order one of these right now. Thanks for this suggestion. I'm wondering if you this that this watch probably has the same sensor. I happen to like the analog part.
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Post by texasbb on Jun 22, 2020 8:11:00 GMT -8
And so you don't have to read through that whole other thread, just order one of these right now. Thanks for this suggestion. I'm wondering if you this that this watch probably has the same sensor. I happen to like the analog part. Hard to say for sure, but I'd say it's a pretty good guess that they're the same. Other than the analog displays (I like those too) and an extra feature or two (e.g., pre-programmed calendar), most all the basic functions look the same.
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Post by Coolkat on Jul 6, 2020 11:23:09 GMT -8
It's getting closer to my trip and I'm thinking about taking a different sleeping pad but I'm wondering what kind of night time temps can I expect at 10 or 11,000ft?
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Post by cweston on Jul 6, 2020 12:20:16 GMT -8
It's getting closer to my trip and I'm thinking about taking a different sleeping pad but I'm wondering what kind of night time temps can I expect at 10 or 11,000ft? Most likely you'll have nighttime lows in the 40-45 range at that altitude in July or August, but it could certainly be colder than that--sub-freezing would be atypical but not freakishly so. I typically use a light insulated air pad with a 20-degree quilt or bag for high mountain camps in the summer, if that helps.
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Post by burntfoot on Jul 7, 2020 6:15:05 GMT -8
We had 37 degrees here in Gunnison last Tuesday, but that was a freak. All other nights have been in the mid-40's. Up high, I'd say low 40's would be about right.
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