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Post by autumnmist on May 3, 2020 8:20:36 GMT -8
First, please, no criticisms... I'm not the strong hikers and climbers that you folks are. I just like to walk and wander.
So, for years I've just worn athletic shoes; Nike or Adidas suited me well. And I wore dress shoes when working which in retrospect probably kept my feet smaller and narrower. But since I no longer work (for pay, that is), my feet seem to taking their own path and spreading out. I'm at the point now that shoes I wore a few years ago are getting tighter, particularly on my right foot, which is the side of my political stroke (10 days after a certain individual was inaugurated).
I have weak ankles, always have, as did my mother. Ankle exercises do help.
I guess it's time to buy a really good pair of walking shoes, or boots, and given the cost, I'd like some advice on what to consider so I can make a good choice. I usually walk in local parks, on flat land, less often on sidewalks, but also need good shoes for gardening and mushing through just turned soil.
Any suggestions?
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Post by zeke on May 3, 2020 8:33:57 GMT -8
As you well know, the best advice is try on many different shoes until you find the ones that....Fit. I'd look at trail shoes with a wider base for balance. Your foot spreading out can be several things, but I'd suspect a flattening of the arch first. Just keep trying on trail runners until you find one you like. Personally, I like Oboz, and Merrells.
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Post by jazzmom on May 3, 2020 9:27:20 GMT -8
I do think there's something to be said for going to a specific store/salesperson that knows how to measure your foot for current size. If I were you, I'd go to a running store, not a hiking one, as a start. Most local running store owners are runners and they're pretty obsessed about feet and shoes.
For me, personally, I like road running shoes best for all-around comfort where I'm not worrying about trail conditions like loose scree, traction, etc. I walked into a Running Fit store and the salesperson there did a thorough job measuring carefully (length, heel width, toe width, etc.) and watching me walk (like a duck.) He pulled two shoes and one of them was a Brooks Ghost, 1/2 size bigger than what I "normally" wear. Love them.
My backpacking footwear choices are different from my "walking" choices, usually stiffer to accommodate long hours on rough trails while carrying a pack.
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Post by rebeccad on May 3, 2020 13:16:02 GMT -8
I’m with Jazzmom—get a good fitting at a running store, and buy some good trail runners (for a little stiffer shoe and longer life). If shoes are leaving your toes pinched, you can try Altras; I love the toe space but they are “zero drop” which means no heel rise, and that can cause other issues. BTW, I find that trail runners are just as stiff and sturdy as light hikers, sometimes more.
You may also need extra arch supports, either over-the-counter (like Superfeet) or custom, if your feet are really giving you heck. As for the ankles, aside from making sure you replace shoes as they wear on the outside (which can encourage rolling the ankle), I wouldn’t depend on shoes, but on that PT you do. I usually use worn out shoes in the garden, so that I can get them muddy and leave them outside the door.
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Post by driftwoody on May 3, 2020 14:49:36 GMT -8
Altra trail runners have a very wide footbox. The heel is zero drop, which you may or may not like.
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Post by trinity on May 3, 2020 16:34:58 GMT -8
Agree with jazzmom . For all around walking shoes, it's hard to beat a pair of neutral lightweight trainers. The Ghost is a very popular shoe, another similar shoe with a slightly different fit is the Saucony Ride. Both come in wide sizes, which is a plus for when your feet start to flatten out, as tends to happen with age. The comparable Altra would probably be the Escalante. New Balance shoes tend to run on the wide side. My fave shoes, both for running and walking, are Saucony Kinvaras, but they're more of a minimalist shoe. For the kind of use you're describing, I wouldn't think you'd need a trail runner or a light hiker. Just a pair of neutral training road shoes in the 10 oz range. As Jazzmom suggests, find a good running store, talk to the salespeople, get a gait analysis done, and try on as many shoes as possible.
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Post by autumnmist on May 5, 2020 12:27:08 GMT -8
zeke , good point about a foot flattening out. Although I knew it was happening, I hadn't thought of the effect of it. Sometimes I really miss those narrow, controlled dress shoes (or maybe I just miss working and getting dressed up...and getting a paycheck!). jazzmom , I've already found a local running shoe store; I hadn't really thought my feet would be a candidate b/c I haven't run in years, but I see from reading the posts that there are differences in support, and pressure of the feet. There's a Running Fit store not too far from me; and you're right, the owner is a runner! rebeccad , I think part of the reason my toes feel pinched is poor posture when I'm not paying attention. Arch support...have I had some issues with that! Decades ago my orthopedist prescribed them, but after they were made, I couldn't even walk in them because they caused my feet to roll outward. PT gave the same advice, but I couldn't wear that pair either. I never understood how they could be of help when they caused me to walk bow legged. Rolling ankles are a problem; I thought it was weak ankles and didn't realize it was shoes that could be wearing out on the outside edges. driftwoody , being a novice at this, I had to look up "zero drop." I think that might be an issue for me b/c for years I wore shoes with higher heels, and I was comfortable in them. I find when I wear shoes with flatter heels that I feel lopsided and don't walk straight. That might be something I'll have to address with a podiatrist; I found a really good one for my father and know I could get advice from her. In fact, one of her colleagues recommended New Balance shoes. trinity , good summation and suggestions for the issues, especially for the weight. One of the pair I have now feel like they're Clementine's "boxes w/o topses"; I eventually realized they're probably too heavy; they definitely are NOT lightweight. The Running Fit store I located is conveniently located, so I'll plan on visiting when I can confirm they're actually open. Many of the stores are still open only for drive-by service but not in-store service. Sometimes it's overwhelming to make a choice between so many shoes and styles. I grew up wearing "tennis shoes", and they always worked well for whatever we did, whether walking, bike riding, playing baseball, or whatever. It's interesting how footwear has become so specialized. Thanks to everyone for taking the time to help me give my feet some tender loving care.
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Post by trinity on May 5, 2020 12:43:43 GMT -8
Sometimes it's overwhelming to make a choice between so many shoes and styles. I grew up wearing "tennis shoes", and they always worked well for whatever we did, whether walking, bike riding, playing baseball, or whatever. It's interesting how footwear has become so specialized. I totally relate. What makes it even worse is that all of the shoe companies release new versions of their models every year. Sometimes the changes are significant enough that a shoe I've been wearing for years no longer works for me, and I have to go back to the drawing board. It is very frustrating. It is also true that the tennis shoes that worked for us when we were growing up would probably not work for us now that we are older. In my teens and twenties I could cram my feet into just about anything, and make do. Now that I'm in my 50s, with collapsing arches, knee pain, arthritis in one of my big toes, back pain related to my screwed up gait, etc, I have to put a lot of time and effort into finding the right shoes, whether for running, hiking, or work. It's a huge pain, but it's worth it.
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Post by autumnmist on May 5, 2020 13:13:11 GMT -8
trinity , I think I've experienced the same problem with shoes that once fit well but don't now. The dress shoes I once loved won't even fit on my feet now. It's kind of sad; I remember the jobs I had when I wore some of them, and I become a bit nostalgic for a portion of a life already past. I enjoyed your description of physical challenges! I bet we all have some at our individual and collective ages. My left foot has a toe damaged from tripping on a tree stump, another from tripping over a wheelchair leg support which wasn't properly secured by a therapist who was anxious to get out of the room; back pain from what I call hospital bed lean over posture, and, well, just sometimes plain laziness when I'd rather sit around and read than exercise. But it could always be worse; I'm thankful it's not. At least my mind works....most of the time, but not always. Sometimes it pays to remind myself of how much worse it could be. When I took the bus to downtown Detroit, there were two women who I admired. One was a younger woman who had some type of palsy, and struggled to get up to and into the bus, especially when the lines were long. The other was blind, carried her white stick, and rode to the bus to the New Center area, an area North of the CBD. I always admired her tenacity, but I also was thankful I wasn't faced with a challenge like that. I don't know if I could cope as well as either of these two admirable women.
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Post by crawford on May 5, 2020 16:55:52 GMT -8
Keen has new trail runners over the past 2 years. I like mine. I was always a merrell guy but I started needing a larger foot box. My Keens fit the bill. The are Keen Explore Vent shoes.
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Post by johntpenca on May 6, 2020 2:16:48 GMT -8
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Post by gabby on May 6, 2020 9:14:31 GMT -8
I really believe that shoes are far too personal a thing to allow specific recommendations. My feet are not only very unique, but they change, even from day to day just a little. I'm sensitive to issues that may not even be a consideration for you - and vice versa. I see some people - mostly younger - walking on hikes in the parks around here in slip-ons. I couldn't do that at all. So, the best policy is to do pretty much what jazzmom suggested - find someone you trust, and then spend a lot of time trying on a lot of shoes. Somewhere (like REI) that will let you at least walk around with your socks (or a reasonably similar substitute because that may not be possible for good reasons) in the store to get a feel for the fit is very good. I truly believe that, with a few general suggestions and tips on fit excepted, the right fit and the final decision is something only you can make. (I know that's not much help.)
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Post by ErnieW on Jun 3, 2020 7:00:44 GMT -8
That might be something I'll have to address with a podiatrist; One of my former roommates had bad back and knee problems. Orthopedists and others couldn't help. He eventually tried a podiatrist and got inserts. Within about 3 months his issues went away. Looking at his feet it looked to me like he had no arch at all. I have always had a high arch and still do. I am lucky. I think that has helped me to not have much trouble with my feet. I was actually paid once for my high arches. It was to step in paint over and over and leave a trail. My footprint is very classic (not my actual footprints depicted).
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Post by autumnmist on Jun 3, 2020 8:56:01 GMT -8
Update: thanks to all who offered suggestions. I did make some calls to local shoe stores (good ones, not the typical fashionable stuff), but b/c of store closure restrictions I decided to wait until I could actually get in and try on shoes w/o having the staff go back and forth bringing shoes out to the curb. I also dug out an older pair of shoes, kind of grungy but still usable, and found that some of the discomfort disappeared. And I was able to isolate the most leg discomfort to the store that probably has no padding or any kind of material that supports walking, remembering that dancers require special floors that can also benefit nondancers. @ernie, now I'm intrigued by your foot painting activities. I did try inserts but couldn't even stand with them; they made me walk bow legged!
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Post by rebeccad on Jun 4, 2020 8:55:52 GMT -8
ErnieW, my high arches seem to be the cause of some problems, or at least, it’s the plantar fasciia that huts, so I need extra arch support.
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