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Post by cheaptentguy on Mar 25, 2020 17:50:34 GMT -8
[tap, tap] This thing still on? Over the last few months I've put together a hammock setup that I like, including a nice custom tarp I had made by a local fabricator. I'd also like to have a ULish tent set up for when I don't want to mess with a hammock. I've been eyeballing many of the standard 2p tents, but now I'm wondering if I just want to get some kind of inner to pair with my tarp. I kind of like the idea of having a few modular pieces that all work together. Any suggestions for something with a bathtub flooring and mesh that might pair well with a two pole setup tarp? Something along the lines of this MSR Mesh House tent? |
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Mar 25, 2020 19:01:51 GMT -8
Bunch of the mid manufacturers offer innernets, I’d expect two peak floorless makes to do the same. Mountain Laurel Designs, ZPacks, could be places to look. Hilleberg’s are probably too specialized to their tents. For me anyway a less satisfying option (too confining) would be a Bug Bivy. ETA: turns out alongside MSR, Black Diamond offer two pole mesh inners. Run a cord to the tarp poles and the pole placement wouldn’t be restricted to inside the mesh.   |
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Post by JRinGeorgia on Mar 26, 2020 4:38:54 GMT -8
Six Moon Designs has several.
Personally I use the Sea 2 Summit floorless bugnet for solo trips.
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Post by daveg on Mar 26, 2020 18:42:28 GMT -8
I use a Golite Shangri-la 1 Nest with my tarp. Weighs a pound. I sewed webbing loops on the underside of the front and back of the tarp's ridge. I use my hiking poles to hold up the tarp and then use the webbing loops to support the Nest. Golite isn't made anymore, of course, but there are lots of options out there.  A cheap option is this mesh tent advertised by lots of sellers on AliExpress. It also has both a front and side entry. But it's comparatively heavy -- about two pounds I think. |
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Post by rangewalker on Mar 26, 2020 19:26:14 GMT -8
I have used an Atwater Carey Sleep Screen. It is a Crossed dome held up by two sets of nylon poles. It has foot piece that slopes to foot of the bag, past the hip. There is also cross piece of webbing like a pad strap. I used for that. Shelter in picture Sierra Designs Origami UL2 with Tyvek floorcut to fit the sloped pentagon. The pole was a Cascade Designs two piece pole. [Custer-Gallatin NF - really bad digital copy of film print] 
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Post by Westy on Mar 27, 2020 7:07:17 GMT -8
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Post by swmtnbackpacker on Mar 27, 2020 14:31:46 GMT -8
Depends on whether you have a rectangular or pyramid style tarp. With just skeeters, one can probably get away with a floorless net like S2S, etc.. Also can just sew a perimeter netting. Adding arachnid protection, you’ll want a floored one. MLD is having a sale so they’ve got options for a complete set up.
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Post by trinity on May 2, 2020 11:48:35 GMT -8
Personally I use the Sea 2 Summit floorless bugnet for solo trips. , how do you like it? I am considering picking up a Nano to use with my Duomid and my Gatewood Cape. |
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Post by High Sierra Fan on May 2, 2020 15:03:14 GMT -8
One consideration I’d suggest is livable volume. I tried out an MSR bug bivy paired with a Chouinard MegaMid and found that such a tight space wasn’t comfortable under extreme mosquito season conditions in the Sierra where a bit more “living” room to shelter from the harassing hordes was really missed. By me anyway.
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Post by trinity on May 2, 2020 15:50:15 GMT -8
One consideration I’d suggest is livable volume. I tried out an MSR bug bivy paired with a Chouinard MegaMid and found that such a tight space wasn’t comfortable under extreme mosquito season conditions in the Sierra where a bit more “living” room to shelter from the harassing hordes was really missed. By me anyway. Good point. I probably would not use one of these setups for extreme mosquito season, but for spring and fall. When the bugs are bad, I just take my Duplex. |
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Post by High Sierra Fan on May 2, 2020 16:25:46 GMT -8
trinity Yah that’s my solution. My Solomid outside peak season, my Copper Spur UL 1 for the hordes.
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Post by JRinGeorgia on May 3, 2020 5:46:24 GMT -8
I like the S2S Nano for weight savings, can't beat 3 oz for an inner. But a few things to know. There are some compromises with this bug net, and I'm OK with them because I tend to hike late and break camp early so I only use the shelter for sleep not hanging out in. If you are going to spend more time in your shelter, especially getting in and out of it several times, these little compromises could become more annoying.
If you stake out the corners or clip them to the corners of your fly you can get a nice pitch, but to hang it from the top and tuck the elastic under your sleep pad will result in droopy walls, especially the long one from the peak to your feet. This leaved a droopy cone of netting that centers over your chest/abdomen, enough room to sit up in but barely as wide as your head so could feel cramped. The pro to the tuck under method is that it's easier, and for mostly just lying down and going to sleep it's fine for me.
It has no door, so you have to lift the side up to get in and out, then re-tuck it. I find it easiest to sit alongside the wall I want to exit, then lift the net up and over my head and down the other side, rather than me try to actually crawl into or out of it.
No bathtub floor means you have to have your site selection dialed in if you anticipate overnight rain.
The net fabric likes to cling to anything. It works on velcro better than velcro. But I've never torn or pulled the fabric from getting it unhooked from velcro.
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Post by dayhiker on May 4, 2020 12:35:54 GMT -8
The Beta Bug is over 2 lbs! Back when it was ok with the BetaLite, esp if you would take poles anyway.
I use the BetaLite after the bugs are gone, and take a very small net if I am uncertain about that. One problem I have is the poles for the Lite are close together so hanging the other model bug net is just ok. The Beta Bug would not have that problem I guess since it could be attached with a line to another model tarp with the poles further apart?
Otherwise I take the Double Rainbow, only 40+oz without trekking poles.
Grante Gear used to make a tarp with a bug (no bathtub). Kinda heavy. Not sure about how rain worthy it would be etc.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on May 4, 2020 17:33:01 GMT -8
Yah, oddly enough IIRC most netting is heavier than a solid fabric version...
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Post by dayhiker on May 4, 2020 19:34:15 GMT -8
They used to sell the floor separately it is 20oz - very solid with tie outs to the sill- nylon tarp (or the old nylon version), the netting has pretty robust pockets for the poles compared to most. I think the zipper might be heavier too, but only one entrance.
I almost had a netting sewn to the bottom of the tarp, but kept talking to the person about it thinking they would help me finalize it, but the DR came out and they were tired of talking to me etc. the DR was lighter if you considered no trekking poles which I did not carry most of the time back then. +/- ground cloth for either.
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