walkswithblackflies
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Aug 6, 2021 9:53:58 GMT -8
This happened this week, so yesterday the county fair opened, next weekend is a pirate festival at the harbor in the next state but only 27 miles away. Then school starts. Yup. We've got the following to look forward to... State Fair, college students return (thankfully vaccinated), Labor Day, K-12 schools open. And my elderly parents just returned to Florida after spending a few weeks here in Upstate NY.
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Post by swmtnbackpacker on Aug 6, 2021 12:43:33 GMT -8
Looking at updating my resume, found out some former supervisors and coworkers died of COVID … most likely had other issues as well. Sheesh, no one around to tell prospective employers how wonderful I am on a daily basis. Where I used to live got hit pretty hard (though the cheese enchiladas were tops) and thinking if I hadn’t bailed …
Seriously what do you put for reference? The term died of COVID or the street address to the public cemetery?
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Post by BigLoad on Aug 6, 2021 16:28:03 GMT -8
Seriously what do you put for reference? I don't know of any that succumbed to COVID, but my list of dead managers is pretty long.
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Post by davesenesac on Aug 9, 2021 21:28:42 GMT -8
At this point it is rather evident that those that have been vaccinated as has this person, are no longer safe from some of the COVID-19 strains that have evolved among unvaccinated people. Strains that unfortunately will continue to evolve given the anti-vaccination politicalization of the disease, needle phobia, and vast areas of poorer areas of our planet where vaccines are scarce. Although data shows if one becomes infected, one is unlikely to have a serious case, I am one that does not want to become infected at all, ever, period. The disease is not primarily a respiratory disease as originally thought but rather attacks widespread areas of the human vascular system as in blood vessels that has greater potential for permanent tissue damage including areas within our brains.
With the current surge in infections, I am reading news reports of infected people that claim to be vaccinated that began living carefree as though they were no longer vulnerable, returning to all manner of pre pandemic activities. Homer, that was never the advice of experts. Even if one is vaccinated, the chances one will become infected increases when one is constantly breathing air in confined places of those infected for an extended period of time. The body's defenses can be overwhelmed by too many viruses in many diseases. That is of course why many normally fit and healthy people living with others, especially children, come down with frequent head colds. If one is in a situation where one may be indoors with potentially infected others, it would be wise to be wearing an N95 level mask. Take an airline flight, ride public transportation for hours, ride in a taxi, ride in a car for hours with unknown others, visit a crowded office for hours, enjoy a crowded movie theater, etc, wear an N95 mask. For more brief indoor visits like public transportation, supermarkets, retail, etc, a surgical mask is likely fine as long as one lives in regions of low virus rates.
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Aug 10, 2021 5:41:52 GMT -8
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Aug 10, 2021 8:27:27 GMT -8
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Post by autumnmist on Aug 22, 2021 6:58:13 GMT -8
I anticipate an explosion of cases in SE Michigan, and other areas from which some of the annual Michigan Woodward Cruise attendees came. It was held yesterday, with very little if any publicity or concern expressed in local newscasts about potential Covid transmission. Out of curiosity, and some interest in the old cars of my childhood days, I entered the fray for about a mile. Typically the Southern end of the route is less crowded, but it wasn't yesterday. My speed wasn't even registering for most of the one mile drive until I turned off to take a side route.
It was somewhat disappointing that there weren't as many old cars, but more disappointing was that I had a chance for good views of the attendees. I saw absolutely no one wearing a mask. By mid-afternoon when I returned home, the crowds had grown substantially, and 8 lanes of highway as well as the viewing sideline areas were well packed.
The local tv special in the evening did show some masked folks, but there were more who were not masked than those who were. And they were freely mingling with each other. Some indicated they came from distant state areas, and others from out of state.
I doubt if there's any compilation of out of state attendees and tracing them after they return home. But I wouldn't be surprised if there's a surge in cases here, and a lesser surge in areas from which attendees came. And worse yet, the route was extended a mile south for what apparently was an opportunity for Ford to showcase its apparently new and resurrected Bronco line.
(https://thebronconation.com/event/woodward-dream-cruise-2021/)
That involved another small, somewhat congested city.
My big questions and thoughts though are:
1. Do people NEVER learn? 2. Is watching cars so important that health can be jeopardized? 3. How long must/will first responders have to tolerate this noncompliance (if not outright stupidity) when these people test positive and create another major strain on the medical profession?
I doubt though there are any answers to these questions. Sometimes stupidity and irresponsibility govern over more rational behavior.
I do plan to stock up again and more or less hibernate before the Woodward Cruise wave of infections hits the area.
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Post by autumnmist on Aug 22, 2021 7:06:15 GMT -8
Strains that unfortunately will continue to evolve given the anti-vaccination politicalization of the disease, needle phobia, and vast areas of poorer areas of our planet where vaccines are scarce. davesenesac, on what do you rely for the "needle phobia" conclusion? I don't pretend to have read every article on Covid, but I haven't heard, read or seen (on tv) this issue addressed. People were more likely to be concerned about its effectiveness and/or side effects, or just refuse to be "told what to do" by "government sources." As to poorer areas, every time I see photos of the chaos (putting it delicately) in Afghanistan, I wonder how many people will be exposed as these suffering people are integrated into (more or less) safe haven countries.
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Post by davesenesac on Aug 22, 2021 9:59:51 GMT -8
Well that is because as I've repeatedly mentioned is due to our politically correct news media that does not want to offend people by claiming the real reason they won't get a shot is because they are so afraid of needles they also never get flu shots or any shots at all when going to their doctors. Instead they let these squeamish types use canned responses when asked like "don't trust CDC...side effects...". Only ones more afraid of something than the needle phobic are news media people afraid of bullying social media critics. Yeah are embarrassed to admit why so use common used excuses. Easily find hits with Google News searching as "needle phobia" though few hits will be from national news or local tv news media.
Plus a few posts in this too long to move through page by page thread after that our mediocre forum search software can't find.
Vaccine hesitancy has come to the fore amid a worldwide push for herd immunity against the coronavirus, but it was a major problem even before the pandemic. The World Health Organization in 2019 ranked vaccine hesitancy as a top-10 global health threat. We may avoid vaccines for many reasons, but a fundamental cause shouldn’t be overlooked: Many people just don’t like getting shots. And some would rather die than get a routine vaccination.
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Aug 30, 2021 5:56:05 GMT -8
This happened this week, so yesterday the county fair opened, next weekend is a pirate festival at the harbor in the next state but only 27 miles away. Then school starts. Yup. We've got the following to look forward to... State Fair, college students return (thankfully vaccinated), Labor Day, K-12 schools open. Huh. State Fair opens at the same time college students arrive, and a week later we are seeing a 10x spike of cases. If only there were some way to have predicted this spike. In response, our County has stopped reporting the daily positive test numbers and hospitalizations.
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Post by BigLoad on Aug 30, 2021 6:04:32 GMT -8
Yup. We've got the following to look forward to... State Fair, college students return (thankfully vaccinated), Labor Day, K-12 schools open. Huh. State Fair opens at the same time college students arrive, and a week later we are seeing a 10x spike of cases. If only there were some way to have predicted this spike. In response, our County has stopped reporting the daily positive test numbers and hospitalizations. It's what everyone is doing know. We're close to needing a bunch of FOIA lawsuits to get good data.
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Post by davesenesac on Sept 9, 2021 21:43:47 GMT -8
Just watched a news video of Biden's 27 minute speech to the nation today and applaud his action doing so. We needed it as it is a matter of life and death. Thank you Joe.
I am one that greatly dislikes what both political parties have become and dislike even more, the politicized manipulative media that supports them. Haven't voted for a president since 1996 and stopped reading most political news so generally am not versed in issue arguments. Biden's speech was reasonably well delivered though politicized media is sure to spin it in worst ways. I most liked hearing he is pressuring vaccination on all those employed that are possible within the government's reach and more. Losing employment is sure to finally at least motivate the many needle phobic the news media ignores. Also very good are plans to provide 500,000,000 vaccine doses to third world countries. This is a war between a virus and the whole human race across the planet that could become much worse if allowed to fester and mutate.
Tragically, what his speech won't do is bring our two parties or their media any closer on the issue. There really was not anything he said or could have said to convince many of those unvaccinated that are educationally incapable of understanding the science and pawns of manipulative media. What his speech didn't address for obvious political reasons but should have and varies between regions, is demographics of those that make up the unvaccinated including immigrants.
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Sept 13, 2021 5:04:21 GMT -8
My county now has around 900 active cases, 150 of which are SU students.
A couple of towns over is sleepy rural Hamilton. Colgate University students account 62 of 66 of that town's cases.
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Sept 16, 2021 4:38:07 GMT -8
Since some of you don't get this kind of information... It'd be nice if they also showed % of each group that was vaccinated (total/overall) so that you could see the relative pools as well (ie - not surprising that 80-year-old hospitalizations are mostly vaccinated, because most 80-year-olds are vaccinated.
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Post by jazzmom on Sept 17, 2021 15:21:11 GMT -8
Pfft... That's nothing. 107,000+ at the Big House for Michigan football. Packed in cheek to cheek (bench seating, no separation.) They've had two games so far.
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