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Post by bradmacmt on Mar 2, 2020 21:57:41 GMT -8
The sky is falling...
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Post by ukpacker on Mar 3, 2020 0:07:29 GMT -8
If you come to the UK bring some hand sanitizer because there's none left in the shops.
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kayman
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Post by kayman on Mar 3, 2020 4:55:06 GMT -8
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Post by jazzmom on Mar 3, 2020 5:53:58 GMT -8
I'm not stockpiling anything and am, frankly, more than a little surprised by some very intelligent capable friends who are circulating Facebook posts advocating preparing for a siege. It may be that it feels more "real" to people on the west coast, especially in the northwest. I don't understand the "stock bottled water" recommendation... are people thinking our water supplies will become compromised?
I'm personally thinking more in terms of not contributing to the spread of the virus. I've cancelled all business trips. I have one personal trip that's been long planned in the next few months, which I'll most likely still take, but no other concrete plans until the fall. Nothing international.
I've never been a hand sanitizer user and don't intend to become one. I'm trying to be better about wiping down equipment at the gym... the peer pressure is fierce!
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Post by bradmacmt on Mar 3, 2020 5:59:04 GMT -8
I'm not a hand sanitizer either, nor a mask wearer (which is well proven to provide little protection).
Best things you can do - wash your hands with soap and hot water for 20 seconds, don't sneeze on people.
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Mar 3, 2020 6:14:34 GMT -8
I'm topping off our emergency supplies, but that's about it. If nothing else, it was a good exercise to go through our supplies and note deficiencies. Maybe we'll adjust activities away from crowds (see caveat below), and towards the outdoors. At least I can use it as an excuse to get my family to do more hiking/backpacking. It pisses me off that there are no N95 masks to be found, because I was going to scrape some peeling lead paint in our basement. Thankfully I have access to "real" respirators due to my work. It'll just be a little more uncomfortable. We were going to Disneyland in May. Now, we are reconsidering it. We're going to Universal in early April. I'll let you know how I feel a couple weeks later! Seriously though... I'll be sure to wipe down ride handles, wash hands often, etc. The park itself doesn't worry me as much as the airplane ride to/from.
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Post by bradmacmt on Mar 3, 2020 6:22:51 GMT -8
I'd use any excuse possible not to go to Disney Land
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Post by bradmacmt on Mar 3, 2020 7:11:31 GMT -8
If I did need a mask, I'd probably go with something stylish...
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Post by hikerjer on Mar 3, 2020 7:29:25 GMT -8
Ah, the Bozeman model 😁.
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Post by trinity on Mar 3, 2020 7:46:05 GMT -8
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Post by hikerchick395 on Mar 3, 2020 8:46:17 GMT -8
Ha...we have a lot of N95 masks because I had to buy two boxes (on sale) to get free shipping on Amazon. My husband uses them at work and both of us use them while working in the yard.
It is worrisome as my husband does have an underlying condition and he is usually working in hospitals. He also has a bit of a chronic cough and I hope that other people aren't scared because they think he is sick.
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Post by swmtnbackpacker on Mar 3, 2020 9:56:52 GMT -8
Physically speaking, just more handwashing and being a bit more hygienic. Going ahead with some personal trips as they’ll be out in the hinterlands.. and you got to be somewhere. I’ll probably reduce “town” stays though.. Also not buying non-refundable tickets as not sure if there’s going to be cancellations (if I may add).
Fiscally speaking looking at some bargains (see above) but also a bit concerned about the general economy to be brief.
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Post by autumnmist on Mar 3, 2020 10:36:18 GMT -8
If I did need a mask, I'd probably go with something stylish... I see a market for designer masks, stamped or embroidered with flowers, butterflies, or mountains and lakes. On a more serious note, it's sometimes a difficult balance between rationality and becoming afraid b/c of the heightened publicity, as well as the rapid spread of the disease. We're in uncharted territory.
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Post by cweston on Mar 3, 2020 11:20:27 GMT -8
On a more serious note, it's sometimes a difficult balance between rationality and becoming afraid b/c of the heightened publicity, as well as the rapid spread of the disease. We're in uncharted territory. Of course, there are other reasons why it's very difficult to know what to believe about this. I won't go into details since this is not TPA.
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Post by davesenesac on Mar 3, 2020 11:21:38 GMT -8
Beyond all the illness misery, death, economic, and lifestyle issues, the disease does have value in forcing society and its people to understand vulnerable issues of what a global viral epidemic in this era of world wide travel, especially business travel, a global corporate economy, and overpopulation entails.
Decades ago when most western nations were relatively independent economically, notably for everyday consumer goods, and particularly food, and especially given how our frequent human wars tended to isolate countries, a nation might isolate themselves by simply closing borders and international travel if it came down to that. Today as massive corporations race to lowest costs by buying globally, and politicians set up fair trading policies, we cannot isolate ourselves those ways that is a weakness. In the USA, much of those goods and increasing amounts of food is being imported. We still most importantly have the majority of our food production so in the worst situation, we will still be able to eat though may not have a toothbrush or toothpaste to brush our teeth. Many other countries given endless population growth, especially in the third world, have lost much of their domestic food production, so in the worst situations could be facing famine.
For years I've been complaining about the economic and political powers of growth and development driving endless population growth, especially as it relates to irreversible damage to our fragile blue water planet and its life. And have warned that unless we human beings work together for a static population much lower than already exists with static sustainable economic goals, we as a species may be doomed. Given the rapid rise in genetic DNA science, one might predict eventually a crazed rogue nation or madman may eventually unleash a truly horrible germ warfare virus. So again in that regard, the current emerging crisis may have some value in making we people think about the consequences of continuing down the irrational path we are on.
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