BigLoad
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Post by BigLoad on Feb 24, 2020 19:02:01 GMT -8
At this time of year, I'd much rather be in trouble on Mt. Washington in WA or OR than NH.
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Post by texasbb on Feb 24, 2020 19:05:18 GMT -8
Wow- I made two mistakes in citing the article. Guess I need to do a better job of cleaning these new glasses. Sorry, folks. No reason to apologize, we're just clowning around because it was someone else this time. So you should just say "you're welcome."
Usually when Hood Canal gets mentioned, people confuse it with Hood River (town in Oregon on the Columbia River). Doesn't help that Hood Canal ain't a canal and Hood River ain't a river. Actually, there *is* a Hood river that runs through the town, but most people are thinking of the town. None of this matters.
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Post by BigLoad on Feb 24, 2020 19:09:59 GMT -8
I used to spend enough time there to be regularly given the same hotel room.
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Post by johntpenca on Feb 24, 2020 19:56:51 GMT -8
Wow- I made two mistakes in citing the article. Guess I need to do a better job of cleaning these new glasses. Sorry, folks. It's the transistors miss-firing.
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Post by gabby on Feb 24, 2020 21:05:40 GMT -8
I just read the article about the elderly couple who were visiting in the Point Reyes area, staying at a rental home in Inverness on Tomales Bay. They left to go for a short walk on a trail on Feb 14. They were found alive, but battered, today.
One must ask why in hell someone would do this. They left their wallets, phones and other stuff in the rental place in Inverness. When it started getting late, they should have had the good sense to return back down the path they just traversed, given that they had no means to find their way, esp. in the dark. Kiparsky and Irwin's children spoke to KGO after the rescue, and provided some details on how the elderly couple survived for so long.
"His mom is like an herbalist, mushroom hunter, my dad with his background in mountaineering, they know how to like find things and eat," Jonas Irwin said. "They were eating some part of a fern." www.sfgate.com/news/article/Palo-Alto-couple-missing-found-details-rescue-news-15080105.php I'm sorry, but, if they had such experience and supposed good sense, how did they let themselves get into such a scrape?
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Post by Hungry Jack on Feb 25, 2020 4:57:10 GMT -8
Wow- I made two mistakes in citing the article. Guess I need to do a better job of cleaning these new glasses. Sorry, folks. All is forgiven on these boards. Just don't let it happen again.
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Post by bradmacmt on Feb 25, 2020 6:34:57 GMT -8
I know what you're trying to say. (I think.) I see humor isn't your forte'. In the future I'll be less subtle
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Post by gabby on Feb 25, 2020 8:43:39 GMT -8
I see humor isn't your forte'. In the future I'll be less subtle :) I got that it was humor, but attempted to respond with a mildly over-the-top supply of information on the subject, most of which I figured you already knew and which I thought was, in the situation, wryly humorous in the context - but that also fell flat. Tone is hard to achieve online without a lot more work than most of us wish to expend.
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Post by autumnmist on Feb 25, 2020 9:01:24 GMT -8
I love the humor on this forum!
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Feb 25, 2020 9:31:02 GMT -8
I just read the article about the elderly couple who were visiting in the Point Reyes area, staying at a rental home in Inverness on Tomales Bay. They left to go for a short walk... I'm sorry, but, if they had such experience and supposed good sense, how did they let themselves get into such a scrape? Renting a cushy vacation cottage on the California shore they weren’t thinking. Just a casual short walk. In the dark one wrong turn and things go very sideways in a forested (limited visibility) uninhabited locale. Imho a headlamp or tiny led flashlight would be cheap insurance in such “lets just duck out for a few minutes before pre dinner drinkies”. But it’s those low key situations where most people get into trouble because there’s much less obvious hazard: so people get overly casual.
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Post by Hungry Jack on Feb 25, 2020 9:45:55 GMT -8
I just read the article about the elderly couple who were visiting in the Point Reyes area, staying at a rental home in Inverness on Tomales Bay. They left to go for a short walk... I'm sorry, but, if they had such experience and supposed good sense, how did they let themselves get into such a scrape? Renting a cushy vacation cottage on the California shore they weren’t thinking. Just a casual short walk. In the dark one wrong turn and things go very sideways in a forested (limited visibility) uninhabited locale. Imho a headlamp or tiny led flashlight would be cheap insurance in such “lets just duck out for a few minutes before pre dinner drinkies”. But it’s those low key situations where most people get into trouble because there’s much less obvious hazard: so people get overly casual. It is a bit mystifying as to how they ended up so deep in the underbrush. I know that I would not veer off trail around Santa Barbara, as the brush (before it burned off) is impassable and would tear me to shreds. So, with darkness closing in, they decided to go bushwhacking??? Wuht? I wonder if this might have been some geriatric booty call, fueled by box wine and perhaps the prior night's showing of Basic Instinct on A&E...
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Post by gabby on Feb 25, 2020 10:01:46 GMT -8
I probably have my neighborhood pretty much "memorized" by now, given that the wife and I have been walking and running as far as we can get most every day (or night) for the last 23 years (she currently insists on at least 6 miles), but I mostly don't skimp on supplies, though I sometimes feel like going out lighter just for the hell of it, esp. if I'm just going to go around the local park track. What goes with me just for a neighborhood walk? I carry a waist pack, which is mostly superfluous in the cooler months, but which is where I stash my Smartwater bottle of water/Gatorade when the temps are in the 90s. I freeze about 1/3 liquid in the bottle, then fill with water or Gatorade, depending on my mood. In the zippered pocket is a "flashie" light. (Nathan StobeLight from REI) - which lights I bought after almost running over a couple on the street when they walked out from behind a car whose headlights were blinding me. So many people walk after dark without any reflective clothing or lights, I've actually given away these little $10 lights to people without one. One night I clipped one onto the collar of a passing dog. (You know: "If you don't want to protect yourself, at least make sure your doggy doesn't get run over!") Also, I carry at least one of a Fenix E01/E05/LD02 and a spare AAA battery, and some lip balm. I used to carry a headlamp, but found it's mostly overkill for walking familiar neighborhood streets. It's also a lot harder to change the batteries. I can change the AAA in most of the aforementioned flashlights while continuing to walk. At this point, it's so practiced I can almost do it without thinking. After seeing a female runner the last few nights with a headlamp attached around her waist, I'm rethinking this: I used to wear my headlamp on my right arm just below the armpit. That way you can see shadows and have a bit more depth perception, and you don't blind your partner when you turn to face them. Still, I'd be forced to check the battery before leaving every night - I don't want to change out 3 or 4 AAAs in the dark. The wife has slipped and fallen a half dozen times or so, so, after each fall, I'll be carrying a small ziplock of large Bandaids. Our phones double as GPS and communication devices (sometimes we get separated, and there are apps for locating someone who has the app on their phone - my wife has short legs, but she's wiry and tough, and she walks a lot faster than me), and, of course, house keys on the key hanger in the pack's pocket, or on a lanyard around my neck. And all this is just for a neighborhood walk! The wife and I walked around the Muir Woods area back in 2004, just south of the area where the couple got lost, and, without at least a map of the trails and something to give you some idea of which direction is which (we used the handout from the HQ), you could easily get lost. There are canyons, brush, huge trees and the like, though I never failed to hear the sound of traffic on nearby roads. Point Reyes is quite a bit larger. It would seem reasonable, even for a short trail hike, to take at least some overall look at where things were at and how roads, streams and shorelines intersected in the area - a "map in your head" sort of thing. Still, experience with whatever "devices" you use is essential: I especially remember handing the wife my GPS (a Magellan I was playing with at the time) to indicate the trail I thought we should take, and having her say "that one looks awfully hard; it goes back and forth a lot". I tried to explain to her that that was an indication that the trail was "contouring" along a more-or-less constant elevation, and not going "up and down". I lost that argument, as I usually do. We went up and over, past the campground (Pantoll), then back along the Dipsea trail to Cardiac Hill, for a view of the ocean. Oh well ... I wonder if this might have been some geriatric booty call, fueled by box wine and perhaps the prior night's showing of Basic Instinct on A&E... Never discount that sort of thing. It was, after all, a holiday from Palo Alto. A "booty call" is a "booty call", no matter what age you are. Been there, done that. (Don't necessarily have the tee shirt.)
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Post by Hungry Jack on Feb 25, 2020 10:13:38 GMT -8
Mrs. Jack and thought briefly about bestowing the middle name of "Gibraltar" on our son as he was conceived at a spot just below Gibraltar Dam in the Santa Barbara backcountry one fine fall afternoon.
Thankfully, sanity prevailed and he was christened "Gray", as in Grays Peak, my first 14er. But that hike did not involve any conjugal affairs. It was strictly business that day.
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Post by johntpenca on Feb 25, 2020 10:23:13 GMT -8
^^^ TMI
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Post by gabby on Feb 25, 2020 10:26:56 GMT -8
(for you)** **Some of us are overly loquacious and frank, some are overly taciturn and secretive. Additional: I find it hard to believe that someone >30 years would never have had a "roll in the hay" at least once.
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