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Post by FamilySherpa on Jan 15, 2020 10:35:39 GMT -8
The reviews for the Michelin Defender LTX M/S look good. Gah, more choices. Yeah, mostly on road for me as well: but I’m skittish of getting tire failures, stuck, out in the boonies. Thanks! Michelin’s hadn’t even been on my radar though I ran some of those forever on my MG/BGT and loved them. I somehow only associated the brand with performance road tires, which, I suppose, these are! They are a really great tire. Good warranty too. Michelin dealers typically stand behind their products. But they can get expensive too. The one thing I will say, and this is 100% from a silly vanity perspective....You have a really nice vehicle, iirc...these tires do not look nice. They are as plain as it gets. Even a slightly wider size selection doesn't come close to the look you get from a true All Terrain tire.
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Post by reuben on Jan 15, 2020 10:40:47 GMT -8
Michelin Defender LTX M/S How noisy are they on the road? My current tires make a boatload of noise, which I think is a combination of a cheap tire (I bought the truck used), and a somewhat aggressive tread. I'm not sure which is worse - road noise with the radio off, or turning up the radio ridiculously loud to overcome the road noise.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Jan 15, 2020 11:36:57 GMT -8
Michelin Defender LTX M/S How noisy are they on the road? My current tires make a boatload of noise, which I think is a combination of a cheap tire (I bought the truck used), and a somewhat aggressive tread. I'm not sure which is worse - road noise with the radio off, or turning up the radio ridiculously loud to overcome the road noise. He can say, but from the tread pattern, close together as it is, I’d expect them to be quiet.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Jan 15, 2020 11:51:20 GMT -8
@familysherpa Thanks and that is a part of the consideration for me, I chose the model I did for its function but looks were a part of the equation (I spent way too much on it for me to not be able to look at it without gagging) and being too disruptive with tires that did not sync with the vehicle I’d definitely find bothersome. and given it’s design I think you’re right that the tires will have a significant impact on its look. (just imagine the below with those big white sidewalls from the sixties! 😄😄😄) or, less extreme, something too much like a passenger car tire, which these may look like in person And at discounttire these were surprisingly far more expensive than the other two. At $235 each versus $220 for either of the others. Possibly the more exotic compound?
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Post by texasbb on Jan 15, 2020 12:11:27 GMT -8
My favorite tires I had on my old Toyota were Michelin LTX M/S Those are all-season rather than all-terrain. Any clue whether they're less resistant to rock damage than ATs? I'm thinking about cuts/piercing from sharp rocks on FS roads.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Jan 15, 2020 13:15:31 GMT -8
My favorite tires I had on my old Toyota were Michelin LTX M/S Those are all-season rather than all-terrain. Any clue whether they're less resistant to rock damage than ATs? I'm thinking about cuts/piercing from sharp rocks on FS roads. Good thought! Yep, an issue for me as well. Those dolomite shards that “pave” the forest service roads around the bristlecones around White Mtn in the Inyo National Forest in particular have a nasty reputation as tire slashers. Sometimes killing two tires at a time: and the rangers say a recovery starts at $1500 cash up front. Eeeck. Not totally surprising I suppose when the main grove is maybe 23 miles in... Totally worth the drive. www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/inyo/recarea?recid=20270&actid=50ETA: On thinking about it one difference in design are the sidewalls, the all season doesn’t appear to have the sidewall defense the all-terrain have. ?
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Post by reuben on Jan 15, 2020 14:23:58 GMT -8
My current tires make a boatload of noise, which I think is a combination of a cheap tire (I bought the truck used), and a somewhat aggressive tread. I checked and they're GeoTour, which is apparently made by Sumitomo. But that's about all the information I could find on them, which leads me to believe that I'm correct - they're cheap tires slapped on a used vehicle for profit. It makes sense to keep the cost down and put new tires on it, but I'm so cheap I don't know if I'll be able to jam the crowbar far enough in my wallet to shake the money out for a new set until these actually wear out. 265/65R17 I currently spend 99% of my time on paved roads. That will change in a few years, but even then it will be 95%. The remainder will be snow/ice/dirt/stone. It's for transportation and hauling stuff, not off-roading. So far I don't miss the 8 foot bed on my old F150. Well, not a lot, anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 15:00:27 GMT -8
I have Yokohamas on the Jeep. Most of the guys I work with have BF Goodridge, Jobsites get pretty muddy this time of the year.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Jan 25, 2020 14:11:30 GMT -8
Thanks everybody for your input. I went with the BF Goodrich A/T KO2’s in that they carry the three peak snowflake rating for their on snow performance. Which will be a plus for poking around New England in the coming months. Their general OHV traits and stronger sidewalls (E rated) mean for both National Forest roads and aired down for on sand beach travel (I was just at Assateague where that would have been handy and Cape Hatteras is on my short list) they’ll be more reliable. An additional bonus was noted by the service manager when I went to my dealer (not where I bought the tires) for the annual inspections and an alignment: he said that due to the snow rating coming largely from tread design and not softer tire compound I could expect mileage pushing 80,000. Now I’ll take that as ballpark but oyoh it’s probably a safe bet I’m at least not going to take a big loss in tire life. I’ve not driven them much but early impressions are they’re far quieter than the stock Nitto Terra Grapplers it came with and if anything the handling feels more responsive (stiffer sidewalls?) So, pleased so far.
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Post by k9education on Jan 27, 2020 0:03:26 GMT -8
You got 60,000 miles out of a set of tires???
I've done 60K+ on my last few sets of Michelin LTX with 4-5/32 left when I dumped them. A lot of the better tires in that class are rated for 60-70K.
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Post by texasbb on Jan 27, 2020 7:52:06 GMT -8
I've run a few tires close to that, but no way did they retain their original traction to the end, especially not on snow or off-road. One set started slipping so much on pavement you could hear them lightly squealing on just about every turn, even though there was officially still enough tread.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Jan 27, 2020 12:22:02 GMT -8
I've run a few tires close to that, but no way did they retain their original traction to the end, especially not on snow or off-road. One set started slipping so much on pavement you could hear them lightly squealing on just about every turn, even though there was officially still enough tread. Indeed there can be a huge gap between legal and truly safe. That was one of my incentives for replacing mine though they were quite legal at 5/32. I took a bit of my cue from CalTrans/Yosemite where that tread depth does mandate chains when deeper tread on snow rated tires does not. The limit being 6/32. www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/tirechains.htm
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