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Post by daveg on Jul 26, 2019 7:54:14 GMT -8
I'm getting old and have found myself missing a chair with a back more and more during recent trips. I was checking out backpacking chairs and stumbled across this hammock chair concept. Since I usually hike where there are trees, I figured it might work, and I liked the idea because only one tree is needed. Made my version out of a 4' x 5' piece of 70D ripstop nylon I had. Still tweaking but it looks like the finished weight will be around eight ounces. Although I haven't sat in it for longer than 10 minutes, it seems comfortable enough.
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Post by crawford on Jul 26, 2019 9:10:13 GMT -8
Nice. In the past I used one of the old net hammocks (used to list them as a backpacker hammock) that balls up the size of your fits. I would tie it high in one tree and low on a very near tree. It worked pretty well. Even slept in it a few warm nights.
I like where you are going and may have to try that.
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Post by Coolkat on Aug 2, 2019 6:26:34 GMT -8
I love this idea but I'm not sure I'd happy about using my trekking poles since if I get the tent I want they'll be used for that. The bottom where the material is gathered needs some kind of tough material that can handle just having a stick poked in it.
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Post by daveg on Aug 2, 2019 12:15:59 GMT -8
I love this idea but I'm not sure I'd happy about using my trekking poles since if I get the tent I want they'll be used for that. The bottom where the material is gathered needs some kind of tough material that can handle just having a stick poked in it. Some of my shelters also require two trekking poles so I tried to make the setup as versatile as possible. I considered putting a reinforced pocket in the bottom where the end of a pole or stick could be inserted but went for simplicity first -- I used one-quarter inch double-braid polyester rope in the bottom channel that was long enough it could be lashed to a stick or the handle of a hiking pole or attached to a strap running to another tree or anchor point. It seemed to work just fine so I didn't bother with a pocket. In this photo I used a stick instead of a trekking pole. The stick in the photo is 3.5 feet long. I figure I will often be able to find a stick that would work near a campsite. The bottom of the chair can be lashed at any point along the stick to get the comfort one desires. I also discovered that placing my sit pad in the chair makes it more comfortable. A stake or other anchor point in the ground also works but is not as comfortable. The stake has to be angled sharply toward the chair, securely embedded in the ground, and heavy duty enough to handle the load. A lightweight tent stake may not be sufficient. And there is always the option of attaching the bottom of the chair to another tree. I found that setting the height of the strap so the bottom is angled slightly upward is most comfortable. And if none of those options are available, I'll just use my sit pad as I always have.
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Post by Coolkat on Jul 12, 2021 6:05:21 GMT -8
When I saw the following I thought it might be a good time to bring this current. I'm curious to the thoughts of others on this. I might order this and try it out for my Isle Royale trip next month.
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Post by gabby on Jul 14, 2021 15:15:12 GMT -8
I'm thinking about either 1) buying a Cloud 71 or 2) making one out of the fabric. It seems to me that a hammock with a seam and a pocket sewn into the middle could double as both hammock and chair. It would, however, be heavier than just the chair. Just some shaped fabric "stirrups" hung on the line on the foot end would make relaxing with your feet up more fun.
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Post by Coolkat on Jul 15, 2021 6:19:48 GMT -8
I'm thinking about either 1) buying a Cloud 71 or 2) making one out of the fabric. Decisions, decisions. I haven't pulled the trigger either. The Cloud 71 chair is only 2.5oz or for 5.12oz I can have a whole 11ft cloud 71 hammock for less than $8 more. Just need to add in some kind of suspension system (Never done hammocks before so I'm not sure what is involved). But at these weights I think it/they would make a nice "camp chair" that is off the ground. 2.5oz sounds really nice but so does an 11ft hammock at 5.12oz.
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Post by zeke on Jul 15, 2021 7:00:53 GMT -8
Just need to add in some kind of suspension system Hammock Gear sells whoopie slings, which are a very lightweight suspension. Easy to make them yourself. link When I made mine, I made sure to include a hook into the loop to allow it to capture the strap that goes around the tree. A carabiner would work as well. Other types of suspension are heavier. If you really do buy the hammock, I can steer you to other places for more info.
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Post by Coolkat on Jul 15, 2021 8:12:50 GMT -8
zeke, I really appreciate the links. Since you seem to be somewhat in "the know" of hammock suspensions I would like to get your thoughts. On the Dutchware website, as part of the purchase, they give the option of a simple continuous loopback or whoopie slingback. I know everyone is different but what would be your choice? I totally new to this. Unfortunately I can't see a picture of the slingbacks on the Dutchware website to compare them to the link you provided but I'm assuming they are the same? I like the fact that on your link they are amsteel since dutchware doesn't provide that information. I know I addressed to Zeke but anyone else is welcome to give their thoughts. Thanks!
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Post by trinity on Jul 15, 2021 8:29:08 GMT -8
Hammock Gear sells whoopie slings, which are a very lightweight suspension. Easy to make them yourself. link When I made mine, I made sure to include a hook into the loop to allow it to capture the strap that goes around the tree. I use whoopies also, but I attach them to the tree straps using toggles and a marlin spike hitch. Dutch has a number of different suspension systems available.
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Post by trinity on Jul 15, 2021 8:42:06 GMT -8
Coolkat, that is not "back", it is "black", as in, the color. So the choices are whoopie hooks, whoopie slings, or just continuous loops. Continuous loops just provide you with an attachment point to the hammock, but no actual suspension. The whoopie hooks are a good suspension system, especially for a beginner. If you get the whoopie slings, you will also need to get tree straps, and some way to attach them to the straps. If you order a chair or a hammock from Dutch, send them an email, they should be able to provide you with helpful guidance. Your easiest bet would probably be the whoopie hook suspension, though 4 foot tree straps might be a bit short.
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Post by bluefish on Jul 15, 2021 9:11:16 GMT -8
My poles are in the tent set-up and I found this type of chair made it hard to cook or do anything to the side in. They do work, though. You can't sit by the fire or on a beach or a river with your feet in the water, all debates I had before going full on chair.
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Post by Coolkat on Jul 15, 2021 11:03:10 GMT -8
trinity, thanks for the insight I'm thinking that you and Zeke are on to something with your advice. Easier for the beginner is a good thing. I can advance later. bluefish, I guess I had not planned on doing those things with the chair. Yes I'm limited with the need of trees but where I do a majority of my hiking that won't be problem. I'm just after something to hang out in and relax in at the end of the day. And if I can be under 10oz (which is very doable with the cloud 71 chair) I'll be a happy camper.
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Post by trinity on Jul 15, 2021 11:28:23 GMT -8
Coolkat , if you haven't yet, go to Dutch's Hammock Suspension Page, and check out the options he offers. He has great videos for most options, showing how they work. As indicated, my preference is whoopies with tree straps and a marlin spike hitch knot, but the easiest would probably be one of the sliding buckle options. If I had to pick one to recommend to you, it would be the beetle buckle complete suspension. I haven't used this system, but have heard good reviews. It is lightweight and simple.
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Post by zeke on Jul 16, 2021 4:50:16 GMT -8
Coolkat since you are already familiar with Dutchware's site, I'll start from there. If I had it to do all over again, I'd pick Whoopie hook complete suspension as it covers all the bases. If you already have the hammock and don't need the continuous loops that capture the hammock itself, then you can omit that portion. If you decide to get the loops, buy the longest ones offered. I started with the buckles and strap suspension, and moved to whoopie slings fairly quickly. I found it somewhat lighter, and less bulky to bag up. I've been hanging for over 10 years now, coming up on 15 shortly. It may not be as light as a Shire's Li tarptent, and by the time you invest in all the parts it isn't all that much cheaper. I find it much more comfortable to sleep in a hammock. A secondary benefit is the ease of finding a place to hang, as I don't need to worry about slope, mud, sharp sticks under me, etc... If you can get chance to just lay in another person's hammock, I'm sure they'll be happy to bend your ear for hours on the advantages of their system.
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