rebeccad
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Post by rebeccad on Dec 9, 2015 13:11:42 GMT -8
Went for a day hike, left the insoles for my ankle high boots at home, no problem though wore low cut hikers for the drive hiked in those with no problems. I forgot my orthotics once. I was NOT wearing other hiking shoes, and had to pick up some Dr. Scholls. Good thing it was just an overnighter, because my feet really resented it. That's one I triple-check now: do I have my boots, and are the insoles in place?
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johnnyray
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Post by johnnyray on Dec 9, 2015 13:43:55 GMT -8
That's one I triple-check now: do I have my boots, and are the insoles in place? YUP!
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Post by amaruq on Dec 9, 2015 13:50:23 GMT -8
Bored? Is someone else going to carry it for you? Very much the former. And sometimes the latter; Excel makes quick and easy work of equalizing (by percentage of body weight) shared weight for group-carry on extended trips. I wouldn't turn to my list for a weekend get away. That's overkill.
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Post by atvtuner on Dec 9, 2015 14:05:03 GMT -8
I forgot my spork, once.
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Post by reuben on Dec 9, 2015 14:16:48 GMT -8
I forgot my spork, once. They're illegal in most states anyway.
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Post by Lonewolf on Dec 9, 2015 17:22:00 GMT -8
Memory means I arrive at camp and wonder where things are.... oh yeah back on my shelves. If you can't remember it, you don't really need it....
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Post by ladyblade on Dec 9, 2015 18:27:49 GMT -8
I used to have a list, but a couple computer crashes later, I don't. I would like to get everything up on Excel again, just so if I look at replacing it, I can easily glance at the weight and original purchase date and compare it to what I want to replace it with. I think it's more important to have said items grouped together so you aren't spending time trying to find your gear.
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Post by JRinGeorgia on Dec 9, 2015 18:45:09 GMT -8
In my case, the aging process coupled with the availability of lighter and situation specific gear has revised my former nonchalant attitude regarding overall pack weight. The strong desire to continue hiking, backpacking and peakbagging to an octogenarian level requires the ability to make lifestyle and gear adjustments. Weight reduction and maintenance is likely the number one extender. As far as planning goes, I'm into it and it's one of the more enjoyable and rewarding aspects of the activity. At present, my tactical planning backlog consists of (3) 2016 projects. Attention to detail is better in the front end rather than in the field. Big +1.
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rebeccad
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Post by rebeccad on Dec 10, 2015 7:37:40 GMT -8
f you can't remember it, you don't really need it.... So you're saying I don't need my shoes, my brain, or my kids' names?
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Post by desert dweller on Dec 10, 2015 7:43:28 GMT -8
I went car camping once and forgot all my silverware. I looked around the camping area and found a wedged shaped piece of thick blue plastic. (Six inches long, three inches tapering down to 1 inch thick and a quarter inch thick.) I cleaned it then boiled it and used it as a spoon to cook and eat with. It saved me. That was 20 years ago. I still keep it in my glove box in case I make the same mistake again.
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Post by rebeccad on Dec 10, 2015 7:48:02 GMT -8
I went car camping once and forgot all my silverware. I looked around the camping area and found a wedged shaped piece of thick blue plastic. (Six inches long, three inches tapering down to 1 inch thick and a quarter inch thick.) I cleaned it then boiled it and used it as a spoon to cook and eat with. It saved me. That was 20 years ago. I still keep it in my glove box in case I make the same mistake again. Funny, DD. 30 years ago I was backpacking with a friend (and no novice, either, with the AT and most of the PCT under his belt). He realized early on the first day that he'd forgotten his bowl and spoon. Lo and behold, along the trail, he finds a discarded plastic container (think butter tub). No spoons lurking in the bushes, but he carved a sort of scoop from a stick, and had no trouble eating all weekend BTW, we keep 4 spoons and a knife in our glove box all the time. Never know when you'll need a spoon to eat ice cream, or a knife to spread some peanut butter.
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Post by tigger on Dec 10, 2015 8:22:16 GMT -8
I've forgotten my insoles. Chewed up my feet but good. Silver dollar sized blisters before I discovered it - Ate hydrocodone like it was candy so I could walk out.
Forgotten boots - luckily, I was only 30 minutes away from home so I just drove back and got them.
Forgot to check my son's backpack. Turns out, he didn't bring his sleeping bag (my fault for not checking). He slept in mine and I slept in my clothes in my bivy.
Forgotten my utensil. Grabbed a stick and carved a spoon. Forgotten it again, found a rock that was already shaped like a spoon (still have that one).
Forgotten tent poles - Used a stick.
Forgotten tent stakes - used sticks (now, I rarely carry tent stakes. I just use sticks).
Anything else I've forgotten, I've used parachute cord to make...including underwear.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 8:55:36 GMT -8
A number of years ago I was reading about individuals pack (gear) weights of 6 to 10 pounds. I was a bit angry to read of such low weights. I gave arguments that those individuals must be compromising their safety. After my angry moment, I decided that I was going to lower my gear pack weight; which was 35ish pounds at the time. I thought back onto the things I learned from taking the Sierra Club WTC classes. I pulled out the old course materials to review as well as bought and read the latest edition of the ‘The Freedom of the Hills.’
A rule for lowering my gear weight was not to compromise my safety or ‘your’ safety.
With my first drop in gear weight, I went from 35 pounds to 22 pounds. That was the steepest, easiest, and cheapest weight drop. Going below 22 pounds was harder and more expensive.
I had not really paid attention to my individual item weights till I had packed for a 5 day trip. All the gear was in the car and I was ready to go when my wife fell ill. I had been noticing the amount of room that was in my pack, after my gear was placed in the pack. With my backpack packed for a 5 day trip, I decided to weigh each item. I was packed for a trip with my wife, after weighing those items I packed for a solo trip and weighed those items.
Bored? No. More of a curiosity, I admit I was delighted to had got my gear weight down to such numbers.
I, recently, ordered new rain gear, I am expecting to see a drop of 12.65 ounces when the new rain gear arrives.
I like to backpack 10 miles per day. With a low pack weight, I find that I am more comfortable whiles I backpack and I do not feel beat to crap when I get to camp.
My inspiration for dropping pack weight came from reading the Backpacker forums. I use my gear list at the beginning of a new backpacking season.
I do not borrow gear from other people when I get into camp. In Idaho, I rarely run into people on the trail or in camp.
My next gear weight reduction will be with a new sleeping bag and a new, smaller sized, backpack.
HYOH
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Post by markskor on Dec 10, 2015 9:15:59 GMT -8
Confused as usual (What else is new?) about why this thread really exists - the making of detailed, 3-color, spread sheets, especially the ones above including detailed names and prices...(other than to show off/ brag here about your specific gear and their cost on a public forum.) A detailed list is fine/ may be needed for some, but the rest...? I also see no real need to compare weights of sporks, socks, bandanas, headlamps, etc.. BTW, I refuse to weigh or write down anything anywhere about my insoles.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 10:16:47 GMT -8
Confused as usual (What else is new?) about why this thread really exists - the making of detailed, 3-color, spread sheets, especially the ones above including detailed names and prices...(other than to show off/ brag here about your specific gear and their cost on a public forum.) What's to brag about? TipiWalter complains about the lack of backpacking-related threads. As long as we have such a thread, he stays away from the forums. Is any other reason necessary? Heh, heh. The way I look at it, an old man need never have to defend his making of a gear-weight list. When I see so many folks having knee surgery, often at a younger age than I, I feel completely justified in having attended to the weight I carry on my back. I've been actively backpacking my entire adult life and solo hiking since I was age 5. I bought my first computer with spreadsheet application 26 years ago — long before I ever heard of these forums, or of the word "ultralighter." When I think of all the different types of spreadsheets I've made since then, it would be downright mind-boggling if I had never made a gear-weight list. When I buy new gear and decide that it is something I am likely to find good use for, it's only natural to weigh it and add the item to my gear-weight list. And even though I rarely refer to that list, it comes in handy occasionally. I rarely meet anyone when I'm in the backcountry, and on those rare occasions when I do, I could hardly care less what arbitrary category of hiker they are. For a guy who never heard many of those terms before the internet age, the categories seem so made-up to me. The few hikers I rarely meet are not dayhikers versus backpackers. They are not ultra-lighters versus thru-hikers. They are not white versus black versus little green men from Mars. No wait! I may rethink that if she is a young, shivering female seeking a jacket from my chivalrous inner self. But I presume most of them are human, though I'm not entirely sure of myself in that regard. A hundred yards from the trailhead, I may be nothing more than a near-naked schizophrenic muttering cryptic blurbs about the weather, for all that matters. Whatever I am, it doesn't give a hoot about someone else's opinion of the weight on my back, or how I arrived at it. (Excepting perhaps the young female, of course. I can't remember.) Oh yeah, and I say all this with fondness in my heart and tongue in my cheek: Who cares why I make colored spreadsheets? Leave to an old man his peculiarities. It's science.
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