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Post by johntpenca on Feb 17, 2019 14:08:02 GMT -8
But that strikes me as different from true winter with possibility of snow, even if the temps are the same. Maybe because of the long hours of darkness—the highs are apt to be lower and you never thaw/dry out. Very true. At altitude even in summer night time lows can get into the teens. My pack weight stated above is for true winter in the sierra. Looking at several feet of snow.
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Post by hikerjer on Feb 18, 2019 19:29:55 GMT -8
36 to 40 lbs depending on whether I'm solo or with someone to split the weight with. That doesn't count the weight of the skis or snowshoes and poles. Like johnp, I like to have all my bases covered especially when it's 20 degrees or colder. Haven't been out yet this winter overnight but hope to get into the Crazies the first week of March if all goes well.
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Post by johntpenca on Feb 19, 2019 13:32:35 GMT -8
That doesn't count the weight of the skis or snowshoes and poles. Add to that the extra repair gear, fuel, skins, more clothes (with redundancy). The worn weight also goes up (ski boots, gloves, balaclava, etc.). It adds up fast when one goes out in winter and needs to be ready for whatever hits the fan. hikerjer : want a TR on your trip to the Crazies.
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Post by 1holegrouper on Dec 13, 2021 12:16:39 GMT -8
25 pounds lean (to me) and 30 points comfortable; The variables could be snow shovel (Voile), Snow tent pegs (I will usually deadman sticks if going to a wooded area), extra sleep pad (closed cell), chair (I know...Helinox), scotch in flask, extra insulating clothing, tent inner (Hilleberg Nammajt 2), binos or monocular, saw, variable weight of sleeping bag (depending on temperature rating used- Western Mountaineering), extra power cell. I usually sacrifice variables listed so I can bring more food! LOL
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Post by rangewalker on Dec 13, 2021 21:34:40 GMT -8
So what's your weight. Winter conditions, temps in the 20's and below, possibility of snow, below treeline (I hike in Mid Atlantic) not including show shoes, skis, shovel, just your shelter/sleeping , kitchen, clothing, hygiene, the basic stuff. My environment and climate flavor my choices. Temps down to 0 deg F (-18 C), varying snow, either sub-alpine or high basin desert in the Central Rockies of the US. My three base items from pack, shelter, and sleep system all take a march upwards in weight. The pack alone jumps to 6.5 to 7 pounds. Shelter goes from 1.9 to 3.5 pounds. Sleep system 2 to 3-3.5 pounds. Tonight getting ready for a trip this week, base weight is 32 pounds. The biggest wobble is clothes I expect to wear on the trail. So I got for fair weather day start for swag. One of the trade offs this trip is less water carry because I am going to rely on more snow melting. And a switch to liquid fuel stove and less water filtering. The trip is hike in, camp, day hike and explore, and day half hike and then out. Another bonus is this a canyon hike so tumble down and pack up and out two days later with much lighter pack.
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Post by dayhiker on Dec 14, 2021 8:58:31 GMT -8
About 25 to 30 lbs. Mainly spring skiing , long night too much for me. Has been two years now, since I skied around Crater Lake "Camp Paradise" Mount Rainier (Paradise)
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Post by panatomicx on Jan 7, 2022 16:38:46 GMT -8
My winter kit. 35-40 lb, but we're talking white gas stove, fuel, snowshoes, axe, crampons, shovel, -20 bag, 2 pads, 4 season tent. Adds up.
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Post by rangewalker on Jan 7, 2022 18:09:04 GMT -8
I am definitely in the 30-32 pounds regime for winter. I can rarely count on consistent 20 deg temps whether it is in sagebrush or alpine in my NE Wyoming local. Four and five years ago, I went to Death Valley NP and surrounding BLM lands with my Rocky Mountains three-season kit and froze. And my kit is for a minimum of two nights. I only do day and half winter trips in desert if free water is not available or it's a test of new gear.
The thing that add up the weight to my winter kit is a four-season tent bomb-resistant tent. Sudden windstorms and spindrift are not your friends. Liquid fuel stoves. It takes me 3-4 days to overcome the weight disadvantage of liquid stoves. Water bottle or storage insulation and extra fuel to make water. Plus more cooking. I have a premium 0 deg bag and back it up with a STS Reactor liner, full length inflatable -insulated pad, and a full length CCF pad. I like rehydrating with soups and stews washed down with a lot of teas. More sleep and camp clothes. Last winter, I added a saw and a small hatchet. Three seasons I rail about no fires. Last winter, IF in areas near me that are overgrown, and there is snow cover, I started having a fire some nights. Small twiggy almost LNT fires. I still won't in desert or sagebrush steppe. Finally, hand and body wipes more than I would ever consider the rest of the year. I am become less tolerant of winter funk as I have gotten older.
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