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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 8:58:33 GMT -8
No I meant if you got lost for more than a day and you had to survive there or days if not weeks, do you carry a survival kit, like a whole kit fishing gear, etc.. Every year, my wife and I practice bush craft; setting snares, starting fires with 2 sticks, building shelters and the like. I have not needed anything more then a pocket knife for bush craft.
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Post by bradmacmt on Jan 22, 2019 9:03:56 GMT -8
Good grief... if you know how to use a knife, it doesn't take much "size"... a quality 2.75" blade is plenty for most everything, including taking apart elk. For summer backpacking I carry the little Victorinox Classic w/ P-38 opener attached. If I'm after highcountry trout I'll also pack the Opinel no.6: For my annual backpack-elk hunt I will usually pack something the size of the Opinel no.10, although as I've mentioned I've used smaller. The "right" knife with a 2.75" to no more than 4" blade is ideal. My favorite is the DH Russell designed "Canadian Belt Knife" made by Grohmann (4" balde). This one was purchased at the factory in Pitou, Nova Scotia, and was a gift from my father so it's my sentimental favorite. At 4.8 oz's it's a bit heavier than I care for, but it's such a fine knife for taking apart a big animal, that it generally is in my pack:
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Post by danny on Jan 22, 2019 9:21:47 GMT -8
No I meant if you got lost for more than a day and you had to survive there or days if not weeks, do you carry a survival kit, like a whole kit fishing gear, etc.. Every year, my wife and I practice bush craft; setting snares, starting fires with 2 sticks, building shelters and the like. I have not needed anything more then a pocket knife for bush craft. I'm pretty heavily into this knife thing including metallurgy part of it.I prefer high-end knives. I also find a pretty frustrating if if the knife has less than a 5 inch blade, however most of the timeI don't need over 7 inches either unless I'm batoning or chopping wood. Im not a fan of axes I'd rather have a great saw and a big Chopper so I can baton wood. For general-purpose tasks I still prefer to have a belt knife that's 5 to 7 inch Long, however for cleaning fish I prefer to have a dedicated bird and trout knife fixed blade pointy stainless and keeps a good Edge. I can't stand Victorinox Knives, and most tolders in general. I have a Leatherman which I love but I would totally not use that as my primary for almost anything,
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 9:34:31 GMT -8
I'm pretty heavily into this knife thing Once I don the backpack, I am pretty much into the whole LNT thing. It is easy to start a fire. I have cotton balls saturated in petroleum jelly, and covered with shaved magnesium. All it takes is a spark to set those to afire. Snares and snare triggered fishing poles are, also, easy. The whole thing about bush craft, is that its easy. What's a bit harder, is to look back where you been, and not see any sign, that you've been there. It is to often that I see where someone decided to whack at a tree, with an axe, and then give up. When, I am out wet, someone cuts off a tree limb, from a live tree, the tree will die after it becomes infested with the borer beetle. Pound a nail into a tree, its dead; borer beetle. Sort of like stealth camping. Also, I am of the mind set that the more you bring with you the more afraid you are.
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Post by RumiDude on Jan 22, 2019 10:10:45 GMT -8
The question is about knives and that is legitimate. Though not a knife forum or even a bushcrafting forum, we do touch on these topics. Rumi
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Post by driftwoody on Jan 22, 2019 10:16:46 GMT -8
I never go into the woods without at least one big ass knife. I'm curious as to how you've actually used your "big ass knife" in terms of justifying the weight. I carry a Gerber Dime multitool, which weighs 2.24 ounces.
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Post by danny on Jan 22, 2019 10:19:12 GMT -8
I'm pretty heavily into this knife thing Once I don the backpack, I am pretty much into the whole LNT thing. It is easy to start a fire. I have cotton balls saturated in petroleum jelly, and covered with shaved magnesium. All it takes is a spark to set those to afire. Snares and snare triggered fishing poles are, also, easy. The whole thing about bush craft, is that its easy. What's a bit harder, is to look back where you been, and not see any sign, that you've been there. It is to often that I see where someone decided to whack at a tree, with an axe, and then give up. When, I am out wet, someone cuts off a tree limb, from a live tree, the tree will die after it becomes infested with the borer beetle. Pound a nail into a tree, its dead; borer beetle. Sort of like stealth camping. Also, I am of the mind set that the more you bring with you the more afraid you are. Starting fires is easy if you come prepared. your post made no sense you made it seem like it's easy and then you said you have cotton balls with Vaseline, that's being prepared. I have started many fires ever since I was a kid and it is most certainly not easy. even with a lighter on a windy day it is very hard to start after a downpour it is also very hard to start It's easy if you're prepared and everything goes according to plan no rain no wind drywood everywhere you have a lighter and I also disagree on the last line, being having more than enough is not paranoid it's smart. If I bring 5 MREs and only eat 2 I'm okay with that but if I end up needing to survive in the woods for days and I only have two granola bars I'm going to be pissed off at myself for not having enough
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Post by danny on Jan 22, 2019 10:22:10 GMT -8
I never go into the woods without at least one big ass knife. I'm curious as to how you've actually used your "big ass knife" in terms of justifying the weight. I carry a Gerber Dime multitool, which weighs 2.24 ounces. Chopping and batoning wood, although I find it much easier to saw wood into pieces and then baton it. I can't stand small knives usually. I've had approximately 10 folders over there last 15 years or so but I find that I need to use other tools other than a knife most at a time, far more often than a blade. That's why I carry my Leatherman super tool.
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Post by driftwoody on Jan 22, 2019 10:26:13 GMT -8
Chopping and batoning wood For fire, or for bushcraft construction? I seldom build a fire, but when I do it's with wood I can break without sawing. If I really thought I'd need to saw I'd bring my folding pruning saw.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 10:26:39 GMT -8
Starting fires is easy if you come prepared. your post made no sense you made it seem like it's easy and then you said you have cotton balls with Vaseline, that's being prepared. Fire starter is part of the 10E's. I use the 10 essential list as put out by the Sierra Clubs Wilderness Training Course as referenced by Freedom Of The Hills, by the Mountaineers. I have a 10E kit in the car, in my bugout pack (which has a gun), in my day pack and in my backpack. My wife has similar plus she has a 10E kit at her place of work in her bug out bag. I don't carry MRE's, too heavy and too filled with trash items. My gear weight, including pack is less then 11 pounds. Part of the 10E's is extra food and extra water that is, for us, not counted as regular food. it's extra.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Jan 22, 2019 10:31:21 GMT -8
Hiking with MREs in anything but desert makes zero sense: carrying all that unnecessary water in prehydrated meals (not to mention the incredible amount of extraneous trash) when water, at 2 lbs per quart, is waiting in the backcountry? Yikes.
But hell, I’d feel naked in the backcountry without my big ass Nikon d850 full frame dSLR and some lenses, so, HYOH.
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Post by danny on Jan 22, 2019 10:41:49 GMT -8
Chopping and batoning wood For fire, or for bushcraft construction? I seldom build a fire, but when I do it's with wood I can break without sawing. If I really thought I'd need to saw I'd bring my folding pruning saw. I understand that if you're from North Dakota or even Minnesota 40° to you is not that low you probably go jogging in that type of temperature. But here in southern part of Louisiana thats considered low. A couple of weeks ago it got to about 19 ° I went for a walk around the neighborhood for about 45 minutes and I was dressed like an Eskimo. The last time I went camping I was there for two days and the temperature got to about 40 degrees. Although I was somewhat okay, I was not cozy and could not sleep and even with a wool blanket and a crappy sleeping bag from Academy Sports. I got up during the night at one point and I built the fire and made some soup and then I could get some sleep. I still felt like ass in the morning, partially due to the thin pad I had underneath my bag and no pillow. This is why I'm looking into buying an inflatable pad for the future or will try to switch to a hammock setup if I'm camping somewhere where there's trees around. The fire helped a lot I also carry a big knife in case I have to survive in the wilderness. like I said previously I've already gotten lost in 2006 and that's not the only survival type situations that I've been in I've been in some when I was younger to
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Post by hikerjer on Jan 22, 2019 10:44:07 GMT -8
Look, if you want to carry a "big ass knife" and a gun into the wilderness, I guess that's your prerogative. But please don't flash them around me to impress me. In my nearly 60 years of backpcking, I've never had need of a big knife. This community has among the most experienced backpackers and hikers that you could find assembled anywhere. If you read their comments, I think you'll see that most of them eschew big knives and guns for a reason. The only ones I know of that carry them are the folks that take them on a hunt where they provide a valuable function. Furthermore, if you came here for information, that's great. But if you're just looking to start an argument, you might like the TPA or be happier on some other forum.
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Post by danny on Jan 22, 2019 10:46:05 GMT -8
Hiking with MREs in anything but desert makes zero sense: carrying all that unnecessary water in prehydrated meals (not to mention the incredible amount of extraneous trash) when water, at 2 lbs per quart, is waiting in the backcountry? Yikes. But hell, I’d feel naked in the backcountry without my big ass Nikon d850 full frame dSLR and some lenses, so, HYOH. But Mountain House meals require boiling water do they not? Or do they work with cold water to? Which means I have to start a fire which means I need wood processing which means I need ignition source. Granted, I never go into the woods unprepared anymore. I do have all the stuff for the job but it's a lot more convenient for me to just open a pack and eat rather than have to boil water. I'm not worried about water weight I do find us a slight pain in the ass as far as the leftover trash. I usually carry a big ziplock bag where I put them trash in so I can zip it up that way it doesn't stink up my pack or attract bears to me. what do you do with your trash?
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Post by hikerjer on Jan 22, 2019 10:46:12 GMT -8
I would suggest that if you don't wish to be controversial then leave that topic alone. Rumi Thanks, Rumi. That's exactly the point I was trying to make.
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