reuben
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Post by reuben on Jan 22, 2019 17:09:31 GMT -8
Here's a documentary from my childhood that can help explain. If Maryann and Ginger are included, count me in!
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Post by Lamebeaver on Jan 22, 2019 17:32:09 GMT -8
And the people who sent the Navy all of those mail bags full of letters asking why they couldn't be rescued are clearly people who voted for XXXXX in the last election.
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Post by danny on Jan 22, 2019 17:38:08 GMT -8
I'm confused how you could be lost for weeks on a 5-mile trip... I don't even know if this was the same thread I posted this thing on butt in one of the threads I said I got lost in 2006 I got lost in less than a mile hike by walking off course Got lost in hundreds of acres of land it took me 6 hours and I almost died but after about six hours I found my way out walking through a swamp swampy land so if 5 miles blows your mind I got lost in less than a mile
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Post by danny on Jan 22, 2019 17:38:48 GMT -8
A stove and fuel is for boiling water Boiling water takes a lot of fuel. Most of us carry a water filter instead. I have two of those for that exact same reason I meant boiling water for rehydrating freeze-dried meals
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Post by toejam on Jan 22, 2019 18:44:00 GMT -8
This is an awesome thread and I appreciate danny for posting. We don't usually have this much excitement here. danny I bet I'd enjoy sharing a campfire with you. Keep hiking your own hike.
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Post by danny on Jan 22, 2019 18:56:16 GMT -8
This is an awesome thread and I appreciate danny for posting. We don't usually have this much excitement here. danny I bet I'd enjoy sharing a campfire with you. Keep hiking your own hike. Quite likely. I have lots to talk about although my expertise tends to be on to things that people get pissed off most about such as religion and politics that's what I'm most knowledgeable about
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Post by hikerjer on Jan 22, 2019 19:19:16 GMT -8
my expertise tends to be on to things that people get pissed off most about such as religion and politics Oh hell, we all think we're experts on those two things. That's what makes the TPA so interesting and what gets us in trouble most of the time. Present company not excepted.
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Post by swimswithtrout on Jan 22, 2019 19:22:17 GMT -8
Got lost in hundreds of acres of land it took me 6 hours and I almost died One acre is 1/640th of a square mile. Even if you got lost in the middle of 500 acres of land, you were only 0.4 mile from a boundary With all of your "Bushcraft Skills" you certainty would have known to set a site line, even without a compass, by lining up tree trunks as far as you can see, and walking them in straight line. (I do know something about it, as I've had to do it in a dense fog over 5 miles, when I got caught without my compass on a day that was supposed to be bright and sunny) I can backpack with a full load (for 14 days) at ~ 2-3 miles an hour, on trail over moderately "hilly" terrain. Off trail, that can go down to as low as 1 mile an hour, so if you were lost in the middle of 500 acres, walking a straight line shouldn't have taken any more than 20 minutes, not 6 hrs. For reference, one of my favorite backpacking destinations in the Lower 48, does not have a road or trail shown on it's USGS 7.5' quad, the only location in the Lower 48 that desolate. That's ~ 55 square miles, 35,200 acres, no trails, all at 11,000' altitude. It took 2 1/2 days, out of the 14 days I was out for, to cross it. I didn't die, or even come close, despite having 6-8" of snow fall on me several days.
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Post by danny on Jan 22, 2019 19:36:23 GMT -8
Got lost in hundreds of acres of land it took me 6 hours and I almost died One acre is 1/640th of a square mile. Even if you got lost in the middle of 500 acres of land, you were only 0.4 mile from a boundary With all of your "Bushcraft Skills" you certainty would have known to set a site line, even without a compass, by lining up tree trunks as far as you can see, and walking them in straight line. (I know something about it, I've had to do it in a dense fog over 5 miles) I can backpack with a full load (for 14 days) at ~ 2-3 miles an hour on trail over moderately "hilly" terrain. Off trail, that can go down to as low as 1 mile an hour, so if you were lost in the middle of 500 acres, walking a straight line shouldn't have taken any more than 20 minutes, not 6 hrs. You're starting to get on my f****** nerves a****** I don't know exactly how big the property was I got lost around 7 or so I came out all around 11:30 at night I was not lining up the logs the last f****** thing on my mind was lining up two logs the first thing that crossed my mind was panic and I panicked mostly because I realized that I had no gear As the night fell I needed a headlamp and then I got scared if something was to attack me I had no way to defend myself then I got scared that I have no shelter and no extra clothes the last f****** thing was me lining up the logs I understand what you think you're doing you think you're pwning me but you're really not you're just annoying little f***
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Post by ecocentric on Jan 22, 2019 19:53:42 GMT -8
A big assed knife might be useful for digging up edible roots. I often forage for edible plants and mushrooms as I hike, or after setting up camp. I usually carry a plastic trowel to dig my cat holes, so I really never take more than a SAK.
I can appreciate, if most of your experience has been in flat woods and swamp, you might have found navigating with map and compass challenging. Canoeing in the Everglades convinced me that I needed a GPS, but I always use a map and compass as my primary navigation tools. Just remember to make a way mark at the trailhead so that you always know how far and what direction your car is from your current location.
I've been temporarily confused about my current location a lot, but never really lost. I have been out a couple of days longer than I had planned because of weather or just having too much fun. Buying good equipment and learning how to use it will prevent you from ever getting into survival situations in the first place. Using poor equipment can create a survival situation when you could have been comfortable and having fun.
It's not my intention to hurt your feelings, but 40° is not cold and 5 miles is not far. Are you sure that you have bad luck? It is possible that you just need to hone some skills and buy some better gear. It is also possible that you need to use better judgement. Check the forum for people looking for partners or put a post in one of the regional forums to see if there is someone in your area you could team up with for some overnighters. Mostly people have been trying to help in this discussion.
Best of luck on your hikes.
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Post by ecocentric on Jan 22, 2019 19:57:14 GMT -8
I understand what you think you're doing you think you're pwning me but you're really not you're just annoying little f*** He gave you sound advice, something I learned in Boy Scouts. Do you really want to learn anything or just piss people off?
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Post by hikerjer on Jan 22, 2019 20:18:18 GMT -8
I beginning to think this. At least I don't think he's making many any frinds.
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Post by hikerjer on Jan 22, 2019 20:21:01 GMT -8
I've been temporarily confused about my current location a lot, but never really lost. "I've never been lost in all my travels. But I do confess to having been a might confused for several days." - Jim Bridger.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Jan 22, 2019 20:39:23 GMT -8
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Post by greg1062 on Jan 22, 2019 21:19:37 GMT -8
Plus the great names: Scylla, Charybdis, Gorge of Despair. ...some day.... hopefully...
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