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Post by tipiwalter on Nov 23, 2015 11:15:28 GMT -8
Since that was 2007, about 8 years ago, I'd be curious what does it look like today? It looks as you would expect it to look---a sea of brambles.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Nov 23, 2015 13:06:58 GMT -8
Well, there's a'ways just letting it burn, no need for helipads in that case, safer as well given how hazardous rotary aircraft are to fly above big wildfires. Maybe after some time they'll recover from all that Smoky Bear zero tolerance stuff that caused the fuels buildup (and shift from previous species mixes?) in the first place.
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tarol
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Post by tarol on Nov 23, 2015 17:16:17 GMT -8
Yep, just let everything go up in smoke. Can you imagine? How many acres burned last year? Now, what, multiply that by 10, 20, 100? And how many lives would be lost? Of course we wouldn't lose any more firefighters, that would be good news.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Nov 23, 2015 17:23:52 GMT -8
Yep, just let everything go up in smoke. Can you imagine? How many acres burned last year? Now, what, multiply that by 10, 20, 100? And how many lives would be lost? Of course we wouldn't lose any more firefighters, that would be good news. And the complaints about the fire retardant drops, drone flight restrictions, fire closures of trails etc. would all be eliminated. Hey instead of "Land of many uses" the new saying could be: "Good luck out there".
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johnnyray
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Post by johnnyray on Nov 23, 2015 17:39:18 GMT -8
I have read that one of the problems is build up of fuel due to a century plus of fire suppression at the behest of logging companies, that compounded by drought and more and more people moving near or into forested areas has made the job more about protecting property than being able to manage fires the way the Forest Service would like to.
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tarol
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Post by tarol on Nov 23, 2015 18:00:55 GMT -8
Urban interface is a huge problem and the biggest hurdle to just letting fires burn. We're not just talking a few cabins in the woods, whole towns and cities - tons of people live in areas that are prone to fires.
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Post by tipiwalter on Nov 23, 2015 18:20:48 GMT -8
Urban interface is a huge problem and the biggest hurdle to just letting fires burn. We're not just talking a few cabins in the woods, whole towns and cities - tons of people live in areas that are prone to fires. Widespread fires are probably part of a healthy grassland or forest ecosystem except humans haven't been part of a healthy ecosystem on this continent for generations. "Urban interface" is proof of this. We do not currently have the wisdom to live in balance with our environment. "Tons of People" about says it all. Any attempts at population control? Nope, last I heard we will have 180 million new immigrants by 2050, jacking us up to around 450 million. Forest management types and planning engineers will eventually log and eradicate every forest tree and then there won't be any more forest fires. If we build everywhere, every single natural storm will kill someone. Imagine a tornado coming thru 300 years ago and killing a couple prairie dogs. Now the same tornado comes thru and kills 200 humans. Why? Because we are everywhere chewing up everything.
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