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Jul 5, 2015 8:40:33 GMT -8
Post by Crockett on Jul 5, 2015 8:40:33 GMT -8
For me, base weight is the Pack, Pad, Tent, Bag. No cloths, or food because that could change from trip to trip. Base weight to me has always been everything you are taking net of food, water and what you are wearing. In other words, bag and gear. Certainly, clothes and food change based on the trip but so can shelter, bag & pad. Anyway you define it, 7 pounds is impressive. I shall never achieve it. I raise my hiking pole in salute. PS: My dog beats you by about a pound and a half.
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Jul 5, 2015 14:44:55 GMT -8
Post by paula53 on Jul 5, 2015 14:44:55 GMT -8
How exciting. Please take lots of pictures, Zeke.
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Jul 5, 2015 15:48:06 GMT -8
Post by rebeccad on Jul 5, 2015 15:48:06 GMT -8
I mostly agree about the trail runners, or trail shoes. I recently bought some low-top Merril trail shoes (sorry, can't recall the exact model) for every-day wear, and they have a stiffer and more protective sole than my boots, which might in fact be because they are newer, as on further study I see the boots are the mid-height version of the same thing, only about 5 years old :D
My Eldest Son just finished 5 days on rugged terrain in the Sierra with very light trail shoes (trail runners), and had no complaints. But he has always hiked in tennis shoes.
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Jul 5, 2015 18:52:12 GMT -8
Post by rebeccad on Jul 5, 2015 18:52:12 GMT -8
But ultimately you'll get what fits well. I have had heavier and lighter boots over the years largely dependent on finding something, anything, that fits. But I may have a tougher fit than most.
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Jul 5, 2015 19:23:27 GMT -8
Post by paula53 on Jul 5, 2015 19:23:27 GMT -8
I checked out the Moab Ventilators, and the Merril Trail shoes. Both were very well made. They both looked breathable also. I have to go into Reno to get a better selection. We don't have much selection in Carson City.
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Jul 5, 2015 20:15:07 GMT -8
Post by johnnyray on Jul 5, 2015 20:15:07 GMT -8
The Moabs are not as stiff in the sole as the Chameleons IMO, the Moabs do vent well.
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Post by panatomicx on Jul 7, 2015 10:18:17 GMT -8
Base weight, though, I think is defined as:
Base Weight is the total weight of your entire gear kit, excluding consumables which are food, water, and fuel. Consumables are not included because the amount varies by trip length and conditions. A lightweight backpacker (LW) carries a base weight under 20 pounds. (From Gossamer Gear)
I'm at about 26lb for a multi day summer trip.
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Jul 8, 2015 16:48:39 GMT -8
Post by cahiker on Jul 8, 2015 16:48:39 GMT -8
I've had a couple of pairs of the Vasque Breeze boots, as has my husband and a couple of my friends. They've all lasted well, although none of them were ever very waterproof. That said, I agree with the other recommendations to go with something else. My feet are much happier in non-GTX - They breath better and so stay dryer. When they do get wet they dry quickly. On some trips I prefer a mid height because I have a bad habit of banging my ankle on granite. When that isn't a risk, I prefer a low shoe because it's cooler. I typically carry 15-25 lbs for a multi-day summer trip and don't think a higher boot offers me much protection from twisting an ankle, or much additional stability in rough terrain.
My Vasque Breeze boots are now relegated to short snowshoe trips.
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Jul 9, 2015 9:00:29 GMT -8
Post by calidream on Jul 9, 2015 9:00:29 GMT -8
Okay, so is this a good place to ask if there actually is injury-preventing ankle support in boots like the Vasque Breeze boots? I can't really see them stopping an ankle injury other than Ca Hiker's tendency to run into rocks. I've always just assumed that there was ankle support, but I don't really know. illustration: www.campsaver.com/breeze-2-0-gtx-boot-men-s
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Jul 9, 2015 9:58:37 GMT -8
Post by toejam on Jul 9, 2015 9:58:37 GMT -8
I don't think there is much actual ankle support, but I used to feel like it was significant enough that I was more comfortable in hi tops. My ankles are much stronger after years of running so I don't roll them like I used to. Now it's usually low tops for me, but I understand when people say they want the support.
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Jul 9, 2015 13:13:35 GMT -8
Post by rebeccad on Jul 9, 2015 13:13:35 GMT -8
I've been arguing the same thing with my spouse, who is worried because his new boots are pretty low. I am of the opinion that it's the trekking poles that will save his ankles, as I have managed to roll my ankles in boots of all heights, and now just plan on saving myself with the poles.
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Jul 10, 2015 7:30:18 GMT -8
Post by calidream on Jul 10, 2015 7:30:18 GMT -8
Thanks - helpful.
Are there low-cut hiking shoes to avoid?
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