jeffb
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Post by jeffb on Jun 27, 2018 21:02:56 GMT -8
Hello -
Day hike 5-6 times a week in hilly terrain (SoCal) - top elevation about 1500-2000 ft. 55 yo, 6'1 230 but in good hiking shape. Do 15-30 miles on weekends and 3-5mi per hikes during weekdays.
so anyway...
Over the last several years, I have trouble sleeping at higher altitudes. Like 6000-8000 ft. Fall asleep no problem, but wake up many, many times a night needing to catch breath. Not gasping or anything, just like not getting enough oxygen.
In the past, after 2-3 evenings, it would gradually get better. The past couple years, it's the same on day 1 as on day 4. Very frustrating as I'm exhausted the entire trip and hiking really suffers.
Is there anything I can do short term? Have Lake Tahoe trip coming 6/30-7/7 and want to really take advantage of all the trails.
Long term I'm in process of getting sleep study done, although at home I have no issues sleeping.
ANY guidance would be appreciated.
Thank you!
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BigLoad
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Post by BigLoad on Jun 27, 2018 21:48:52 GMT -8
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Post by msdoolittle on Jun 28, 2018 6:27:33 GMT -8
As BigLoad mentions above, acclimation and lots of water. I know there is a drug out there for Hypoxia, but I've never taken it, nor know enough about it to really recommend.
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tigger
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Post by tigger on Jun 28, 2018 7:36:23 GMT -8
I was going to recommend talking to your doctor. My doc gave me Altitude sickness medicine when I was on the Greenland ice sheet - you wouldn't think altitude on a big sheet of ice...
However, I never felt the need to use it. I still have some that I keep in my pack for emergency. I often eat black licorice which increases blood flow, bringing more oxygen through my body, at least in theory.
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Post by plaidman on Jun 28, 2018 15:22:13 GMT -8
I'm heading out to hike the southern half of the JMT. I'm going from sea level to 8,000' tomorrow, then up. I have a lot of trouble adjusting to altitude--my O2 sats drop below 90 at 7,000' in an unpressurized plane. Also, I have sleep apnea/hypopnea and normally sleep with a CPAP machine. There's no such machine for backpacking, so, between the altitude and my normal difficulty breathing while supine, I don't sleep well at altitude. To counter this, I try sleep in positions that own't obstruct breathing, and I got a prescription for diamox from my doctor. It's supposed to help with edema. Not sure if it actually helps with the sleep and other low sat-induced problems, but I'll report back.
Happy trails.
Plaidman
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reuben
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Post by reuben on Jun 28, 2018 18:01:15 GMT -8
I start to run into issues around the 5,000-7,000 foot mark, but that's just me. Many studies have concluded that there isn't a whole lot to conclude, and you just have to figure out what your limits are, and how you need to acclimate. Staying hydrated certainly helps. As far as how high/how fast you can go - you just have to figure that out for yourself. But the adage, "hike high, sleep low" seems to be a decent rule of thumb.
The only general conclusion that I'm aware of is that we often become more tolerant to both absolute and relative altitude with age, but event that's highly individual.
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