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Post by desert dweller on Jun 21, 2018 6:55:58 GMT -8
These attacks happen more often than you think. Especially in southern Arizona. Here is the latest. People and dog attacked by swarm of bees in midtown Wednesday, June 20th 2018, 10:14 pm MST By Jordan Glenn, Digital Content Producer TUCSON, AZ (Tucson News Now)Multiple Tucson Fire Department units responded to a bus stop near the Lowe's Home Improvement store on Oracle and Limberlost, after bees stung several people on Wednesday afternoon.link
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Post by JiminMD on Jun 21, 2018 7:17:45 GMT -8
I didn't realize they were that prevalent in the US. I'd prefer not to meet them.
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Post by desert dweller on Jun 21, 2018 7:27:08 GMT -8
I didn't realize they were that prevalent in the US. I'd prefer not to meet them. All honey bees in southern Arizona are considered Africanized.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2018 8:27:51 GMT -8
I was visiting Big Bend Ranch State Park in west Texas some years ago; one of the car campgrounds was closed pending removal of a nest of aggressive bees.
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Post by BigLoad on Jun 21, 2018 17:42:15 GMT -8
These attacks happen more often than you think. Especially in southern Arizona. Yeah, that's why I pay close attention to how the bees act when I'm out and about. If I get bumped more than two or three times, I change course.
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Post by Coolkat on Jun 22, 2018 4:59:57 GMT -8
A year ago when I did a 5/6 day trip in the Superstitions I kept my eyes open for this. Didn't really want to have to deal with this in the backcountry.
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Post by autumnmist on Jun 27, 2018 16:21:56 GMT -8
desert dweller , I knew they were migrating northward but didn't realize that AZ had been so infested with them. What kind of precautions are being recommended to identify, avoid and protect people and pets from them?
From what I've read they're higly aggressive and attack en masse, literally overwhelming their target.
And are the native bees still here at all? What about crops? Are the Africanized bees pollinating crops?
That poor little puppy... It's miserable enough when a person is stung but a little puppy probably has no idea what's happening and is terrified. .I hope he makes it and doesn't have residual injuries.
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Post by desert dweller on Jun 29, 2018 8:40:23 GMT -8
What kind of precautions are being recommended to identify, avoid and protect people and pets from them? Basically, educating the populace and news releases of bee attack events. There isn't any effort to be proactive in searching and eliminating the bees. Actions are reactive. Hives found in town seem to be mostly in spaces between walls, ceiling spaces and wood piles. And are the native bees still here at all? What about crops? Are the Africanized bees pollinating crops? All native honey bees are considered "Africanized". The bees still fulfill the role as pollinators of desert flowering plants. There are thriving small businesses who sell "Killer bee honey" in stores, swap meets and roadside stops. The bees are kept and deployed as needed for crop pollination.
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Post by ecocentric on Jul 3, 2018 17:29:50 GMT -8
In the Midwest, at least in more forested parts of the Midwest, native bees are doing pretty well. Honeybees are being stressed by mites, hive collapse syndrome, and sensitivity to neonicitinoid insecticides. Honey bees are not native to America, they were introduced. When European bees were crossed with African bees, the result was a more robust hybrid but the undesirable trait for aggression was part of the bargain. That is part of the incentive to incorporate one gene at a time artificially rather than play craps with the entire genome. The old fashioned way of modifying genetics always included undesirable genes along with the desirable ones.
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Post by desert dweller on Jul 16, 2018 9:55:16 GMT -8
Another bee attack in town. Tucson woman stung over 100 times by bees Posted: Jul 16, 2018 9:33 AM MST Updated: Jul 16, 2018 9:46 AM MST By Jordan Glenn, Digital Content ProducerAccording to crews on scene, the elderly female went outside to check on her dog and was attacked by the swarm of bees. It appears that the bees had found refuge underneath a shed on the property.link
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Post by Moonshae on Feb 12, 2019 17:37:18 GMT -8
They are related to European honeybees and interbreed. They pollinate the same plants and are not visually distinct. Fortunately, they are not good at overwintering and only can survive in places with mild or non-existent winters because they don't build up sufficient stores to successfully survive a cold winter. For example, here in NJ, a managed colony needs about 60 lbs of honey to survive a winter. Africanized bees tend to use smaller cavities as hives that fill up and lead to swarming before large stores of honey can be generated.
European honeybees are considered gentle and are defensive only; they won't sting unless provoked, and moving away from the hive by 10-15 feet will usually end pursuit. Africanized are similar except they are more easily provoked by proximity (both in terms of distance and response) and will follow for much longer distances. This combination is what yields so many stings, because when a bee stings, it releases a chemical that increases defensive behavior in bees and makes them target the stung area (it smells like bananas). One sting is like painting a bulls eye on you for the bees and a hefty defensive response with following behavior from Africanized bees can generate a lot of stings, especially in the case of people/animals who aren't able to move away as quickly: the elderly, children, pets.
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Feb 13, 2019 8:05:14 GMT -8
And that's why honey badgers are the most bad-ass animal on the planet.
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Post by cweston on Feb 19, 2019 6:35:55 GMT -8
My wife and I recently took up bee-keeping.
One thing we've learned (not by first-hand experience, thankfully) is that domestic bees bred in Texas are are likely to have at least some minimal amount of hybridizing with the Africanized bees. These bees are not "killer bees," so to speak, but they are more aggressive than "standard" honey bees bred in other parts of the country. We know a couple bee keepers who have abandoned colonies because it was just too much of a hassle (and too difficult on pets, visitors, etc) dealing with their more aggressive behavior.
Standard Italian honey bees are not very aggressive at all--even as beginners learning the craft, we've been stung only a few times. I think one of our dogs got stung once when we first established the hive and he didn't know any better. But no one would ever be stung just because the bees happened to be out and about on the property, which does happen when colonies have the "meaner" hybridized bees.
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Post by ecocentric on Feb 21, 2019 17:54:55 GMT -8
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