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Post by dirthurts on Nov 2, 2015 5:05:01 GMT -8
SD FL 2 is a pound heavier than the CS 2. Not sure any of us are going up in pack weight. Actually it's only 2 oz heavier. You're looking at the Flash, not the Lightning. A front entry isn't as easy to enter compared to side entries like the CS or Emerald Mountains etc. for me. Normally, I would agree. However, the Lightning is really wide and tall at the front, and there is no vestibule to crawl through/over. My lady, with a couple of back problems, actually prefers the Lightning for entering and exiting. You can simply sit up and get out instead of crawling.
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Post by amaruq on Nov 2, 2015 7:13:19 GMT -8
Dayhiker, I looked at that comparison chart, but it looks like the affordable tents are heavy, and the really nice ones are...outrageously expensive. The old adage tends to prove true: Inexpensive, ruggedly built, lightweight; pick two.
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Post by rebeccad on Nov 2, 2015 8:03:25 GMT -8
Normally, I would agree. However, the Lightning is really wide and tall at the front, and there is no vestibule to crawl through/over. No vestibule and front entry...I had that with my ancient SD Flashlight. No, thanks. Impossible to stay dry in the rain, and no place to put the boots. With my side-entry tent, I don't find myself crawling much, if I open the vestibule zip all the way. If it's wet and I'm keeping the opening to a minimum, yeah, but that's to keep things dry. The old adage tends to prove true: Inexpensive, ruggedly built, lightweight; pick two. Sadly, yes. Actually, I think you only get to pick one in this case. I keep hoping for a miracle
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Post by dayhiker on Nov 2, 2015 10:10:49 GMT -8
The site I linked to shows the weight for the CS as 55 ozs. He says the new one is 4 ozs lighter. If 55 is the old wt. then the new one is 51 oz. BA says 44 oz. Not sure what the 7 oz. is due to. I suppose bag and stakes, and varation in wt, maybe some etc.?
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Post by 1camper on Nov 2, 2015 10:21:58 GMT -8
I'd send the fly back.. should be able to send just the fly for $5, might be worth the gamble if the rest of the tent is fine. I wouldn't assume a new fly would cost half as much as a new tent. If that is the case, send the fly to zpacks or someone to make you a cuben fly. Probably still be cheaper than buying a new tent and more weatherproof.
Oh..re reading I see the tent body shows some wear. How much wear would be the deciding factor to me.
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Post by Westy on Nov 3, 2015 12:21:34 GMT -8
A few tents are compared to the CS 2 hereSee my review under Hilleberg Anjan same page. Was always a free standing dome tent user. Bibler Eldorado and TNF V-24 for decades. Was very cautious at first but converted from dome to tunnel and any tent Hilleberg within the past 7 years. Never had a problem pitching either the Anjan or Atko in a variety of terrain from red rock to tundra and anything in between.
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Post by dayhiker on Nov 3, 2015 18:14:36 GMT -8
A few tents are compared to the CS 2 hereSee my review under Hilleberg Anjan same page. Was always a free standing dome tent user. Bibler Eldorado and TNF V-24 for decades. Was very cautious at first but converted from dome to tunnel and any tent Hilleberg within the past 7 years. Never had a problem pitching either the Anjan or Atko in a variety of terrain from red rock to tundra and anything in between. I guess you mean you are Fenway on that site? (also Salt Lake). I always liked H's tents because the inner can go up last, and packed seperately, the weight and perhaps the cost would be an issue, though the weight split between 2 does not seem that much. My tents aren't freestanding either except my Lighthouse which really needs to be anyway since it often blows far away if it isn't, but I could see how freestanding could work better in some situations, such as rock and light wind, esp if you don't want to tie deadman etc.
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Post by speacock on Nov 6, 2015 9:49:02 GMT -8
I've used a Stephenson (Warmlite) 2R for over 20 years and a 3R for a little less time and infrequently. I've camped on hard ground and have found places to sink in 3 anchors. It isn't a pop-up, but is wear ready if the user takes a bit of care. It takes under 5 minutes to be in a sleeping bag on a pad inside. Both are roomy for 2 or three. The 2R had 5 adults one dark and stormy night. It was difficult to shuffle the cards or sleep. I've certainly amortized the extra cost for a light weight tent.
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Post by rebeccad on Nov 6, 2015 18:27:36 GMT -8
Oh..re reading I see the tent body shows some wear. How much wear would be the deciding factor to me. Curious here what others would call too much wear. The zippers I can handle--I know how to replace the sliders for a few more seasons' use. I can probably sew up where the mesh is pulling away from a seam. I patched the two places where I managed to puncture the floor...
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Post by BigLoad on Nov 6, 2015 19:46:52 GMT -8
I would consider there to be too much wear if it were widely distributed enough that new holes and tears will crop up faster than you can fix them, or if repair tape made the tent look like it had chicken pox. I also worry a lot less about floor wear than walls and roof.
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Post by 1camper on Nov 7, 2015 16:37:33 GMT -8
Think of wear as getting lighter.
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Post by rebeccad on Nov 7, 2015 22:34:22 GMT -8
hink of wear as getting lighter. LOL! Sadly, it often means getting heavier--duct tape isn't light, you know!
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