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Post by Hungry Jack on May 21, 2018 6:46:39 GMT -8
I pulled up this survival series on Amazon Prime. The second episode was about the young Texas couple that had wandered away from the aerial tram station up on San Jacinto, got lost, and ended up stumbling upon Donovan's final camp on the upper southeastern slopes near Long Valley Creek. Donovan had died the year before, but the matches left in his pack enabled the couple to start a signal fire and be rescued. Donovan was attempting to hike the PCT shortly after retiring. He had ventured up San Jacinto from the south as an early May winter storm was closing in. He apparently attempted to bail out of deteriorating conditions near Saddle Junction, crossed eastward, and ended pretty deep in rugged terrain in the direction of Palm Springs. This story fascinates me. My friends and I were up hiking above Idlyllwild the day SAR was out searching via chopper. I did not learn of the story until a few days later. On first thought, it amazes me that the couple ended at Donovan's camp. But it sounds like the terrain forced each party into the same choke point. Donovan's camp was at about 4,300 feet, and probably only about a winding 3 miles or so down Long Valley Creek to reach the outskirts of Palm Springs. But a 100 ft falls and narrow gorge had boxed him in. It was a trap. The TV episode revealed that the young man, Brandon Day, had come across Donovan's body. In an interview, Day said the finding unnerved so much (after 3 nights in the bush) that he decided "to set the place on fire." So he did. And soon came the rescue. Here is the Backpacker story: www.backpacker.com/trips/lost-found
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Post by RedDoug on May 21, 2018 7:08:01 GMT -8
Interesting story, the kind that always gets my attention. There but for a series of blunders and mis-circumstances, go I.
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Post by reuben on May 21, 2018 7:28:07 GMT -8
There but for a series of blunders and mis-circumstances, go I. Well, you did end up here. "Clowns to the left of you, jokers to the right..."
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Post by RumiDude on May 21, 2018 20:22:05 GMT -8
Kinda sad and strange tale. It was interesting to read.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 23:20:25 GMT -8
But it sounds like the terrain forced each party into the same choke point. If I remember that story correctly, there is no water around, except in that trap canyon. So hikers who are looking for water, see the water and get trapped in the canyon. -Don- Reno, NV
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Post by Hungry Jack on May 22, 2018 5:54:56 GMT -8
But it sounds like the terrain forced each party into the same choke point. If I remember that story correctly, there is no water around, except in that trap canyon. So hikers who are looking for water, see the water and get trapped in the canyon. -Don- Reno, NV Indeed. There is a fairly substantial summit plateau where the tram ends, and much of it drains southeast into that defile. Apparently there is a 100 ft falls just below where Donovan camped. Those young hikers were obviously inexperienced—no map, limited clothing, no water bottle,etc. it is just an amazing coincidence that saved them.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 8:06:49 GMT -8
Those young hikers were obviously inexperienced—no map, limited clothing, no water bottle,etc. it is just an amazing coincidence that saved them. The couple was just going on a short hike, but got hopelessly lost and needed water, which they saw in "Trap Canyon". The guy killed there the year before, was more experienced, but a very lightweight backpacker and got trapped under very cold conditions, most likely died of hypothermia. I assume he too was trying to get water. That place is a rather dangerous trap to those who are looking for water. -Don- Reno, NV
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Post by whistlepunk on May 22, 2018 12:48:48 GMT -8
I used to live in Idyllwild and hiked that area a lot. It is deceptive in how the easy terrain subtly turns rugged and treacherous after you start descending the east side. I did a solo from my house to Palm Springs down Tahquitz Canyon. I was very beat up and tore up with many close calls and never wanted to do it again.
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Post by Hungry Jack on May 22, 2018 16:56:02 GMT -8
I used to live in Idyllwild and hiked that area a lot. It is deceptive in how the easy terrain subtly turns rugged and treacherous after you start descending the east side. I did a solo from my house to Palm Springs down Tahquitz Canyon. I was very beat up and tore up with many close calls and never wanted to do it again. Holy cow. I bet that was brutal. That is some steep terrain, I’m sure! Did you follow the canyon or take the ridge line above it? I think I’d try for the latter if I was attempting that. Canyons with water tend to get choked with brush.
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Post by whistlepunk on May 22, 2018 17:08:23 GMT -8
I used to live in Idyllwild and hiked that area a lot. It is deceptive in how the easy terrain subtly turns rugged and treacherous after you start descending the east side. I did a solo from my house to Palm Springs down Tahquitz Canyon. I was very beat up and tore up with many close calls and never wanted to do it again. Holy cow. I bet that was brutal. That is some steep terrain, I’m sure! Did you follow the canyon or take the ridge line above it? I think I’d try for the latter if I was attempting that. Canyons with water tend to get choked with brush. Started out down the canyon. Ended up side sloping. That was a long time ago (40 years or so). I was a lot younger and dumber then.
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Post by tstle on Aug 12, 2021 0:50:17 GMT -8
Indeed. There is a fairly substantial summit plateau where the tram ends, and much of it drains southeast into that defile. Apparently there is a 100 ft falls just below where Donovan camped. Those young hikers were obviously inexperienced—no map, limited clothing, no water bottle,etc. it is just an amazing coincidence that saved them. Does anyone know the exact map location of this 'dead end gorge' where these people were trapped?
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Post by Hungry Jack on Aug 12, 2021 9:16:36 GMT -8
Indeed. There is a fairly substantial summit plateau where the tram ends, and much of it drains southeast into that defile. Apparently there is a 100 ft falls just below where Donovan camped. Those young hikers were obviously inexperienced—no map, limited clothing, no water bottle,etc. it is just an amazing coincidence that saved them. Does anyone know the exact map location of this 'dead end gorge' where these people were trapped? You can find it using Google map satellite view
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Post by franco on Aug 13, 2021 17:53:22 GMT -8
Indeed. There is a fairly substantial summit plateau where the tram ends, and much of it drains southeast into that defile. Apparently there is a 100 ft falls just below where Donovan camped. Those young hikers were obviously inexperienced—no map, limited clothing, no water bottle,etc. it is just an amazing coincidence that saved them. Does anyone know the exact map location of this 'dead end gorge' where these people were trapped? This will give an idea of what it was like in there: remotemedic.net/2006/05/30/john-donovan-recovery-2/takes a long time to load.... www.rmru.org/missions/2006/2006-06-04.html
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Post by Hungry Jack on Aug 13, 2021 19:37:46 GMT -8
Wow. I cannot believe how they found Donovan.
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Post by Hungry Jack on Aug 13, 2021 20:31:19 GMT -8
Indeed. There is a fairly substantial summit plateau where the tram ends, and much of it drains southeast into that defile. Apparently there is a 100 ft falls just below where Donovan camped. Those young hikers were obviously inexperienced—no map, limited clothing, no water bottle,etc. it is just an amazing coincidence that saved them. Does anyone know the exact map location of this 'dead end gorge' where these people were trapped? OK. Now I have gone down the rabbit hole thanks to Franco posting that incredible report. The Backpacker story notes that he was last seen by other hikers near Saddle Junction, a trail intersection that leads hikers down into Idyllwild on the west slope of San Jacinto: "Traveling about 3 miles northeast from the Saddle Junction area that night, he traversed skinny Willow Creek, then climbed a small ridge and plunged down into a steep gash called Hidden Valley. As he dipped into lower, heartier climate zones, the brush became nasty and thick, the talus rife with scrub oak and manzanita. Donovan’s journal places him in Long Valley, at about 4,300 feet, the night of May 3. On May 5, still camped in the same ravine, he took a fall. How badly he was hurt is unclear; Donovan didn’t elaborate. But clearly the ordeal of the past few days had landed him in trouble. He wrote that he had already become too weak to climb up out of the canyon." I scraped a screen shot of the Google map satellite view for the area, which thankfully lists the tramway, the desert view overlook (where the young couple wandered off trail), and Long Valley. This view shows most of the route from the Desert View area into the upper part of Long Valley, where Donovan almost certainly descended. Note the faint outline of some of the trails in broad bowl where the tram terminates on the east side. The scale on this map suggests that the tram station was only about 1 mile due north from the point where Donovan likely entered Long Valley. One. Mile. Donovan likely followed Long Valley down as it arced east toward the valley and Palm Springs. Right near the yellow area, a second drainage joins Long Valley. The elevation here is about 5,000 ft. Note that Donovan was found at about 4,400. the next topo image shows the remainder of Donovan's assumed route to about 4,400 ft. He probably reached the falls area about a 1/4 mile west of Hidden Fork. It was here where he reached the canyon impasse, and apparently fell and injured himself. The young couple that found Donovan's camp started their trip on Saturday May 6, 2006. They spent 2 nights in the woods before being rescued. My memory is fuzzy, but I think we had taken the tram up on Sunday, May 7, or possibly Monday May 8. All I can remember is hiking not too far from the tram, and seeing a rescue chopper buzzing around in the direction of Long Valley.
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