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Post by Lamebeaver on Jun 6, 2017 6:05:03 GMT -8
I refuse to be classified.
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Post by jazzmom on Jun 6, 2017 6:18:47 GMT -8
Baby-boomer, though at the tail end, and I think the characterization is pretty spot-on. I confess to having been a full-blown Yuppie at one time and, now, this is pretty apropos: Rock on!
My son born in 1998 is definitely a Millennial, as are most of his friends whose parents are mostly baby-boomers. I think there's a strong correlation between generations; one shaping the next one.
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Post by hikingtiger on Jun 6, 2017 8:35:51 GMT -8
Some parts of the profile fit, others are way off. It's about as accurate as a horoscope. Agreed.
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Post by balzaccom on Jun 6, 2017 8:55:13 GMT -8
This made me laugh. The photo of 35-50 year olds to illustrate the Boomer generation? The description of the 77 million Boomers as "one of the largest generations in history." Really? So what other generation has that many people?
And the Silent Mature Generation: "•Born 1927- 1945. Went through their formative years during an era of suffocating conformity, but also during the postwar happiness: Peace! Jobs! Suburbs! Television! Rock ‘n Roll! Cars! Playboy Magazine!
Uhhh. Sorry, but their formative years included the Great Depression for most of them. That had a massive impact. But so did the fact that many of them traveled outside the US for their military service, and the perceptions they brought home changed many things in America.
There's a lot of astrology-style wishy wash in these. Boomers are "self-righteous and self-centered" but also optimistic, driven, and team oriented. Sure. All of these things.
I'm smack dab in the middle of the Boomers, but I also teach this stuff for a living. There are far more interesting ways to look at these generations than this...
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Post by davesenesac on Jun 6, 2017 9:53:27 GMT -8
I think we older folk that have lived through these decades, are more likely to sense the subtle differences than those younger. We were the same when young. Another good summary source:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation#List_of_generations
Snippets:A 2007 Pew Research Center report called "Millennials: Confident. Connected. Open to Change" noted the challenge of studying generations: "Generational analysis has a long and distinguished place in social science, and we cast our lot with those scholars who believe it is not only possible, but often highly illuminating, to search for the unique and distinctive characteristics of any given age group of Americans. But we also know this is not an exact science. We are mindful that there are as many differences in attitudes, values, behaviors, and lifestyles within a generation as there are between generations. But we believe this reality does not diminish the value of generational analysis; it merely adds to its richness and complexity."
The Lost Generation, also known as the Generation of 1914 in Europe, is a term originating with Gertrude Stein to describe those who fought in World War I. The members of the lost generation were typically born around 1880 and 1900.
The G.I. Generation, also known as the "Greatest Generation'", is the generation that includes the veterans who fought in World War II. They were born from around 1901 to 1924, coming of age during the Great Depression. Journalist Tom Brokaw dubbed this the Greatest Generation in a book of the same name.
The Silent Generation, also known as the Lucky Few, were born from approximately 1925 to 1942. It includes some who fought in World War II, most of those who fought the Korean War and many during the Vietnam War.
The baby boomers are the generation that was born following World War II, generally from 1946–1960, a time that was marked by an increase in birth rates. The term "baby boomer" is sometimes used in a cultural context. Therefore, it is impossible to achieve broad consensus on a defined start and end date. The baby boom has been described variously as a "shockwave" and as "the pig in the python". This generation is also referred to as the Me Generation, and the latter portion of the Baby Boomer generation as Generation Jones.
Generation X, commonly abbreviated to Gen X, is the generation following the baby boomers. Demographers and researchers typically use starting birth years ranging from the early-to-mid 1960s and ending birth years ranging from the late 1970s to early 1980s. The term has also been used in different times and places for a number of different subcultures or countercultures since the 1950s.
Millennials, also known as the Millennial Generation or Generation Y, are the demographic cohort following Generation X. Demographers and researchers typically use the early to mid-1980s as starting birth years and the mid-1990s to early 2000s as ending birth years. As of April 2016, the Millennial generation surpassed the Boomer generation in size in the USA, with 76 million Boomers and 77 million Millennials.
Generation Z, also known as the Post-Millennials or "the Information Generation"or the iGeneration or Homeland Generation or "The founders" or "Plurals" or 9/11 Generation, is the cohort of people born after the Millennials. Demographers and researchers typically use starting birth years ranging from the mid-1990s to early 2000s, while there is little consensus yet regarding ending birth years. Generation Z is known as the first generation not to have experienced life without information and communications technology and social media.David
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Post by BigLoad on Jun 6, 2017 10:05:08 GMT -8
Uhhh. Sorry, but their formative years included the Great Depression for most of them. That had a massive impact. I was flabbergasted at the lack of emphasis on the Depression. Is far enough back to not automatically be the first thing that comes to mind when pondering that era? As a mid-late Boomer, the Depression cast a greater shadow over my childhood than the Cold War or WWII, despite the obvious substantial global impacts of those events. I think it worked that way because the Depression's lessons included imperatives of existential importance that had to be implemented at an individual level.
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Jun 6, 2017 10:26:11 GMT -8
I was flabbergasted at the lack of emphasis on the Depression. Growing up, I still remember how much of an effect it had on my grandparents. Nothing got thrown away without first thinking if it could be reused or utilized for another purpose (baby food jars were good containers for small nails, etc.). The extreme example, 'til the day she died, my grandmother would reuse paper towels. And maintenance was key to everything, from house siding to lawnmowers. Those values are embedded in me, as I look out the window at my 23 year-old car, 35 year-old lawnmower, and 20 year-old grill. It kills me when I have to replace an entire appliance for a stupid little part that they either don't produce, or sell for as much as an entire new appliance.
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Post by davesenesac on Jun 6, 2017 10:57:27 GMT -8
Sorry, but their formative years included the Great Depression for most of them. That had a massive impact. But so did the fact that many of them traveled outside the US for their military service, and the perceptions they brought home changed many things in America.... Those descriptions in the link are of course terse summaries so one ought not expect thoroughness. As noted if one wishes to read something more thorough there are many sources upon which it is based. The Great Depression of the 30s was noted for the GI generation while not for the Silent Generation because even the oldest born then were kids. The same kind of missing influences can be noted during other generation descriptions. For instance WWII is not listed even though those kids were even older then thus more likey to be influenced. In any case I do agree TGD is arguably more influential, just that it doesn't fit in such a terse coming of age summary. When that generation came of adult age after WWII any childhood memories of TGD would have been muted by the enormous economic vitality after WWII.
David
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Post by Campfires&Concierges on Jun 6, 2017 15:38:19 GMT -8
I think there's another split around 1988-1990. I call it the Tommy Boy gap. People who instantly recognize that movie and those that don't. Just about two weeks ago, a student walked into my 1st hour class with a donut and I make a comment about how I used to grab bear claws two at a time when I was a kid and get the lodged in this region here. It was met with blank stares. I tried to explain. and the only response I got was, 'oh, that really old movie with that fat dead guy' Kids these days...Or maybe I'm just getting old. Was that a niner in there? (Still one of my favorite movie lines to quote and nobody freaking gets it. Ever)
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Post by reuben on Jun 6, 2017 16:00:40 GMT -8
I refuse to be classified. Mere words cannot describe...
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Post by rebeccad on Jun 6, 2017 20:32:54 GMT -8
The Great Depression of the 30s was noted for the GI generation while not for the Silent Generation because even the oldest born then were kids. See, I disagree. Those like my parents who were born just before or as the Depression hit, went through childhood in the Great Depression. They they spent their teen years with war-time rationing etc., which made for almost the same shortages. Yes, they became adults during the post-war boom, but the Depression had a huge effect. It wasn't just my grandmother who washed plastic bags and re-used paper towels.
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Post by davesenesac on Jun 6, 2017 21:26:59 GMT -8
We are in agreement as to was TGD influential as was WII. My input was to clarify the nature of the brief summaries seem to only address each generation's coming of age periods. In that sense indeed the summaries are inadequate such that more serious evaluation on such an inexact complex subject requires study of work the summaries are based on that would obviously include those two items and much more.
David
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Post by hikingtiger on Jun 7, 2017 5:47:40 GMT -8
Was that a niner in there? Are you calling from a walkie-talkie?
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Post by paula53 on Jun 7, 2017 16:16:07 GMT -8
Boomer. The generation that is having everything taken away from us. When we started working, it was healthcare for life. Social Security for our retirement years. We paid a lifetime of working for that. Now we have found that the rules gave changed for us. They want everyone to save a million dollars for retirement. An unobtainable goal for most of us, given the wages that are being offered. Unions are almost non-existent. Our parents made it comfortly in retirement. We will not.
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Post by stealthytomato on Jun 8, 2017 6:22:36 GMT -8
I'm a Gen Xer who is more like a Boomer and my husband is a Boomer (barely)and is more like a Gen Xer.
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