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Post by catonsvillebill on Mar 30, 2017 7:32:26 GMT -8
It is rude to play music form a speaker in the woods. I don't even like hearing music coming out of someone's ear buds.
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Post by tigger on Mar 30, 2017 8:16:11 GMT -8
It seems obvious to me that if someone wants to listen to music while hiking, they should wear earbuds.
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Post by hikerchick395 on Mar 30, 2017 8:16:39 GMT -8
I agree with catonsvillebill and cweston. Music and other noise carries farther than you think. Even ear bud noise is as irritating as mosquito buzzing (mosquitos are a natural pest, though...)
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Post by starwalker on Mar 30, 2017 8:23:34 GMT -8
It is rude to subject other people to your music without their permission. Use earbuds.
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Post by zeke on Mar 30, 2017 8:29:38 GMT -8
On the trail on Kauai, if one only listened to Iz, then maybe everyone would be OK with it.
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Post by davesenesac on Mar 30, 2017 11:13:16 GMT -8
The subject has played here on this board before and the reactions of members tends to overwhelming be against hearing music from some other group's speakers. And as in the past most agree a person could use earbuds if they had a personal interest in listening to music so it would not offend others in hearing range. And to that there are always some that then chime in that they don't agree with even that behavior, not to the extent of saying it ought be banned, but rather it shows a lack of interest in why people go out into nature to enjoy it.
All of us have probably stayed at a public campground where an obnoxious inconsiderate group, usually in the evening is not only talking loudly but also playing some music from their vehicle or a boombox. These same types are also the most likely NOT to turn in and be quiet at the hour campground rules state. Of course usually this is around a campfire where people are drinking. Such is a primary reason I rarely stay at public campgrounds. Thus many of we enthusiasts go into the backcountry where we expect to find peace and quiet and not be annoyed by the unnatural sounds of other humans.
The above related, I will state that I have been bringing music playing devices into the backcountry for decades and am not alone in that regard. In the earliest days of the 1970s that was one of those cassette decks like this:
That had a small speaker at one end. A decade later it was the Sony Walkman the form of which was copied by large numbers of other manufacturers for years. And later was the short era of small MP3 players, and now is the smartphone generation of players. There have always been some backpackers that did so just as there have always been a few people that lug in an acoustic guitar, harmonica, or flute. Most who brought these devices into the backcountry have been quite aware that doing so is controversial and potentially very annoying to others so are very careful about doing so. But then there will always be a few of lowest common denominator that are the obnoxious inconsiderate exception.
My own advice would be never take something with a speaker unless one is truly going to be in remote areas. Instead in this era just use an earbud. Also realize that sound waves at night tend to go much further because they bend in towards the ground. Especially bad idea to play some speaker at night along a lake shore where sound will travel across waters even further. In the day time sound waves bend up into the sky. Lacking something for sound to echo off of, in the day time see how far one can get away from others in your group with a line of sight and yell so they can hear you. Not very far and with objects in the way like trees much less.
As for the argument nature is not a place to listen to music, I can understand that sentiment. In my case I have always been out in nature so much that I don't need to particularly be listening to it all the time. I semi base camp a lot in remote places and have leisure time some days, especially mid day about lunch when photographic light is harsh. Thus on some days might go up to some impressive spot near camp and play some inspiring music a short while. And yes that could be from a small speaker if I was at one of the remote places I tend to go to. But far more likely is an earbud. Some will chime in, "How do I always know no others are around?" Well one can never be absolutely certain but I can live with an extremely small probability without feeling it is inconsiderate.
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Post by texasbb on Mar 30, 2017 11:21:24 GMT -8
A punishable offense.
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Post by canadug on Mar 30, 2017 13:27:47 GMT -8
Earbuds! Sadly, many inconsiderate people think blaring music on their bluetooth speakers while hiking is perfectly fine.....So Sad.
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Post by autumnmist on Mar 30, 2017 13:39:56 GMT -8
Assuming that one of the primary reasons for being in a backcountry area is solitude, communing with nature, and listening to sounds of the local wildlife, wouldn't that "music" suffice? I think there's a concentration issue as well. If I'm caught up in music I enjoy, my attention span wanders, and then "oops". Down I go. Much as I love music, I prefer to listen to it in my home, sometimes to block out the sounds of the neighbors and traffic, and enjoy the solitude, the sounds of the wind and wildlife when I can.
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Post by tomas on Mar 30, 2017 14:42:58 GMT -8
You are welcome to play whatever music you want to hear while hiking. With earbuds or the equivalent. You do not have the right to blast it so that I have to listen to it.
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Post by Hungry Jack on Mar 30, 2017 15:51:47 GMT -8
In the backcountry on a speaker?
Two words: sacrilege. Period.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 16:04:59 GMT -8
Does a bear make a sound when one is wearing earbuds?
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Post by hikerjer on Mar 30, 2017 16:31:15 GMT -8
When I can hear someone else's music, whether, from a car, a neighbor's yard or when they are hiking they are invading my space and I highly resent it. There is no excuse for it except to admit your being an incredible ass. I never take music into the backcountry with me and just don't get why this society always has to take and make noise where ever it goes. It's like they are afraid of silence or hearing themselves think. Of course, for many hearing themselves think is really scary.
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Post by davesenesac on Mar 30, 2017 19:41:37 GMT -8
Although some are condemning music in the backcountry, I would be surprised if any here actually have been annoyed by someone doing so? In other words a lot of hypothetical what ifs if people found themselves in that situation. I may be wrong and correct me if so because I admittedly rarely camp near others, especially along trails and near lake edges. Heck might be something new with millenials on thru trails? Enlighten me if so. However on other backpacking boards I cannot recall ever reading a thread where someone complained about people playing music annoying others.
Oh for those that might be wondering, for more than a decade have been bringing along a tiny sandisk sansa clip mp3 player and don't use wimpy ear buds but rather a set of portable fold up Sennheiser PX-100 II earphones. So yeah nothing with speakers like decades ago as I my pack is already way too heavy.
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Post by hikerjer on Mar 30, 2017 19:57:24 GMT -8
This is a rather extreme example, but it's the truth. While camped at a lake about six miles from the trailhead, a group horse packers came in with their clients. The proceeded to set up their tents, bring out a generator, string lights and set up their sound system. We broke camp and left the area.
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