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Post by BigLoad on Feb 24, 2017 12:03:50 GMT -8
Congratulations! Can you feel a difference in your daily life?
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Post by Ducnutz on Feb 24, 2017 12:37:42 GMT -8
There's a risk of diabetes in my family, so this is something that concerns me. In the last year I've really been working on fixing my health, I haven't been diagnosed with anything, but worried that a poor diet and lack of regular exercise would eventually take it's toll. A friend of mine who is easily the fittest and most active person I know told me about the Ketogenic Diet. Essentially it's a high fat low carb diet. It's not Atkins, the high fat part is the critical difference. I would strongly recommend checking out and doing your own research on it. I originally started it simply for weight loss and found that it was the most effective diet I'd ever tried (45lbs in a bout 4 months, without starving, eating bacon and eggs just about every day) and have found it's been a great way of life for me.
The more I researched it the more I found that people with type 2 diabetes were using this diet to treat their diabetes. Many people have reported that they no longer had to take insulin, and that their blood work returned to a normal or healthy level (cholesterols included.)
To give a brief breakdown of it, When you stop eating sugars or carbs that your body burns as glucose, your metabolism will change and your body will convert fat in to ketones which it then burns for fuel. Your body becomes very efficient at this and will take fat from wherever it can get it, the food you eat or all those cinnamon rolls you ate before. I'm feeling better now that I ever did.
A simple google of "ketogenic diet" will provide a long list of websites. I found ruled.me to be helpful, the ketovangelist and ketogenic forums. There's also a lot of podcasts. One that might interest you in particular is 2 keto dudes. Two guys that found themselves in the same boat and have used the keto diet to change their health.
Hope this helps, best of luck.
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Post by zeke on Feb 24, 2017 13:08:01 GMT -8
Can you feel a difference in your daily life? Well, there is some change that I know is a result of this dietary shift. I also no longer crave sweets. I still wonder what it would be like to eat 1 cinnamon roll per 90 day blood test period. I really like those things. Too bad my local grocer only sells them in 4 packs. I have thought about freezing 3 and making them last for 9 months.
I am positive the extra mileage I am biking and walking will benefit me come bp'ing season.
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Post by msdoolittle on Feb 24, 2017 13:19:54 GMT -8
There's a risk of diabetes in my family, so this is something that concerns me. In the last year I've really been working on fixing my health, I haven't been diagnosed with anything, but worried that a poor diet and lack of regular exercise would eventually take it's toll. A friend of mine who is easily the fittest and most active person I know told me about the Ketogenic Diet. Essentially it's a high fat low carb diet. It's not Atkins, the high fat part is the critical difference. I would strongly recommend checking out and doing your own research on it. I originally started it simply for weight loss and found that it was the most effective diet I'd ever tried (45lbs in a bout 4 months, without starving, eating bacon and eggs just about every day) and have found it's been a great way of life for me. The more I researched it the more I found that people with type 2 diabetes were using this diet to treat their diabetes. Many people have reported that they no longer had to take insulin, and that their blood work returned to a normal or healthy level (cholesterols included.) To give a brief breakdown of it, When you stop eating sugars or carbs that your body burns as glucose, your metabolism will change and your body will convert fat in to ketones which it then burns for fuel. Your body becomes very efficient at this and will take fat from wherever it can get it, the food you eat or all those cinnamon rolls you ate before. I'm feeling better now that I ever did. A simple google of "ketogenic diet" will provide a long list of websites. I found ruled.me to be helpful, the ketovangelist and ketogenic forums. There's also a lot of podcasts. One that might interest you in particular is 2 keto dudes. Two guys that found themselves in the same boat and have used the keto diet to change their health. Hope this helps, best of luck. Hi Ducnutz! Welcome to the forum! Great first post. This is pretty much what I follow, but a much simpler version "No Sugar No Grains". I'm not nearly as strict as being in Ketosis (all of my carb intake is from veggies), but consider myself fat adapted to the point that I don't have those afternoon sugar crashes and I can manage running 5k while fasting. I don't get hunger pains like I used to, it's really kind of awesome.
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Post by autumnmist on Feb 24, 2017 15:59:32 GMT -8
zeke, congratulations! You can be very, very proud of yourself.
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Post by hikinggods on Feb 24, 2017 21:38:12 GMT -8
Congrats and good job! This is a very serious disease, but you CAN make a difference with lifestyle/diet changes, if you are willing to do the work-- and you were. A belated reply to Autumnmist. Some people get good results with Neurontin, but it just deals with the symptoms. Alpha Lipoic acid was recommended to me by my doctor for chemo-induced neuropathy in my legs. It is believed to be of benefit for diabetic neuropathy and MAY also help with mine.
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Post by Ducnutz on Feb 25, 2017 15:39:27 GMT -8
Hi Ducnutz! Welcome to the forum! Great first post. This is pretty much what I follow, but a much simpler version "No Sugar No Grains". I'm not nearly as strict as being in Ketosis (all of my carb intake is from veggies), but consider myself fat adapted to the point that I don't have those afternoon sugar crashes and I can manage running 5k while fasting. I don't get hunger pains like I used to, it's really kind of awesome. I've been listening to Vinnie also, I think that I will eventually progress to the no sugars no grains approach as well and start introducing more root vegetables. I've still got a few more goals to tic off the list first.
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Post by msdoolittle on Feb 27, 2017 7:33:34 GMT -8
Hi Ducnutz! Welcome to the forum! Great first post. This is pretty much what I follow, but a much simpler version "No Sugar No Grains". I'm not nearly as strict as being in Ketosis (all of my carb intake is from veggies), but consider myself fat adapted to the point that I don't have those afternoon sugar crashes and I can manage running 5k while fasting. I don't get hunger pains like I used to, it's really kind of awesome. I've been listening to Vinnie also, I think that I will eventually progress to the no sugars no grains approach as well and start introducing more root vegetables. I've still got a few more goals to tic off the list first. Yep, the No Sugar No Grains FB group is the Vinnie group. Some days I feel like it's one big advertisement between the olive oil, Pure Vitamin Club and Eat Happy, but I have really gotten a lot of useful information out of it, and it's nice to see real people meeting some fantastic goals! I have also been doing Intermittent Fasting which is boosting my weight loss (I was stalled for a bit). Pretty much, I am skipping breakfast and drinking coffee with a splash of HWC. That satiates any hunger feelings I might get in the morning until noon or one. Type I and Type II diabetics are pretty common in the group, even though the disease is a bit different. Seems it's a helpful method for all types.
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Post by zeke on Mar 14, 2017 6:56:04 GMT -8
So far, it has been 20 days since my blood test at the Dr's office, and I have been averaging 117. If I can keep this up, it will drop my overall A1c another whole number, reducing it to under 6. Maybe even a 5.7. We'll see. Not to get too far ahead of myself. 20 days into 90 is not all that far. 3 weeks out of 13.
Somehow, this particular thread has found fewer participants than I thought it would. Maybe all of you other BP'er types are just healthier than I am. Nah, I've seen quite a few in person, and pictures of others. I may be older, but not that far off health-wise. Anyway, just trying to encourage all of us to take care of ourselves. Changing diets, or exercise regimens, can make a world of difference in how our health responds. Those who have to take meds, I wish you all the best. I am trying to get off mine. Once I go through several of these trips for blood work every 90 days, I am hoping the Dr sees it my way. I may need to shake him awake, though.
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Post by rebeccad on Mar 14, 2017 7:17:52 GMT -8
Once I go through several of these trips for blood work every 90 days, I am hoping the Dr sees it my way. I may need to shake him awake, though. Still thinking you need to kick him to the curb and find an MD who is more on top of this stuff.
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Post by zeke on Mar 14, 2017 7:24:02 GMT -8
That is the plan, but I am waiting until the May visit to make sure. I will be asking for an Endocrinologist & a Podiatrist. Between the 2 specialists, maybe I will get some better medical attention. Specialists visits have a co-pay, but not prohibitive. Something like $35 a visit. Even if I saw them both every 90 days, it'd only be $280 a year. I probably spend about twice that on beer.
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Post by BigLoad on Mar 14, 2017 15:52:19 GMT -8
Somehow, this particular thread has found fewer participants than I thought it would.
I'm watching it like a hawk. Congratulations on your progress!
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Post by rwtb123 on Mar 15, 2017 1:10:47 GMT -8
Somehow, this particular thread has found fewer participants than I thought it would. Congratulations on your hard work!I think you have pretty much successfully adapted to a healthier lifestyle when you can't figure out how other people can't do the same...
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Post by autumnmist on Mar 15, 2017 9:10:43 GMT -8
Maybe all of you other BP'er types are just healthier than I am. Nah, I've seen quite a few in person, and pictures of others. I may be older, but not that far off health-wise. I think it might be an innate trait of humans to downplay personal weight and health issues when posting on a forum on which generally people don't see or meet each other. I also think we like to present ourselves in the best light, and we also might be a little bit unrealistic as to our own foibles. I certainly am! hikinggods , thanks for the suggestions on meds for neuropathy. Sorry I missed your post and didn't thank you sooner. A relative has had neuropathy for years; she said she eventually just got used to it. Thus far I've found it's aggravated by stress and cold. A heating pad doesn't help much but does make it less cold, and the fragrance from an herbal heating pad is mentally soothing. zeke mentioned in another post the effect of sugar on nerves, and I've seen this as well. The hard part is that sugary and chocolate foods have been my "go-to"s for years when I get stressed, so my goal needs to be minimizing stress. I can feel tension building up when I switch to news channels. Just got another plant catalogue today so my stress levels should be way down as I plan for elaborate dream gardens. Did some quick research and learned a little bit more about Alpha Lipoic acid, including in "neuro pathways", but much of the descriptions are complex medical terminology so it'll take a few readings before I can understand it. I did read that it's found in spinach and broccoli, so that's a good way to get more of it. I'll let you know if I can determine any difference, and I do hope it helps you. I also hope you're feeling well with no signs of remission! I am skipping breakfast and drinking coffee with a splash of HWC. That satiates any hunger feelings I might get in the morning until noon or one. Please forgive me if I seem bossy, but those comments made me cringe. I worry about someone who skips breakfast, especially if coffee is the substitute. I drink only decaf, and much as I enjoy it, I cut it out completely about a decade ago after learning that it and alcohol contribute to calcium loss. Since I had been diagnosed with osteopenia, I changed my diet drastically and made the supreme sacrifice of giving up coffee. Giving up wine was easy though. I give in once in a while but haven't had more than a few dozen cups of coffee in several years. And much as I love it, it isn't a substitute for food. Maybe you could just have a light breakfast instead?
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Post by msdoolittle on Mar 16, 2017 6:57:31 GMT -8
I am skipping breakfast and drinking coffee with a splash of HWC. That satiates any hunger feelings I might get in the morning until noon or one. Please forgive me if I seem bossy, but those comments made me cringe. I worry about someone who skips breakfast, especially if coffee is the substitute. I drink only decaf, and much as I enjoy it, I cut it out completely about a decade ago after learning that it and alcohol contribute to calcium loss. Since I had been diagnosed with osteopenia, I changed my diet drastically and made the supreme sacrifice of giving up coffee. Giving up wine was easy though. I give in once in a while but haven't had more than a few dozen cups of coffee in several years. And much as I love it, it isn't a substitute for food. Maybe you could just have a light breakfast instead? lol.... I drink one cup of coffee a day. I haven't been diagnosed with any ailments. I do intermittent fasting in the morning. I don't count calories. I don't get hungry in the mornings and the coffee gets me moving. The coffee isn't a substitute for food, it's a delivery system for the heavy whipping cream. If you haven't tried, I highly recommend it; Unless you are on a low fat, high sugar diet. Then don't. Read Ducnutz post above. That is pretty much my diet. I've been successful in losing 35 lbs and my husband hit the 20lb mark after cutting out wine. I am more active now than I have been in my life. My energy levels have gone through the roof. If your post is directed at me having one cup of coffee a day, then you better start preaching to everyone else who drinks coffee.
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