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Post by trinity on Oct 25, 2019 9:45:27 GMT -8
In case you didn't know there is a big battle going on about how to define country music and its future. I hadn't heard anything but crap out of Nashville for several decades. Then I heard the new Sturgill Simpson album. I have seen the future.
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Post by desert dweller on Oct 25, 2019 10:18:24 GMT -8
Then I heard the new Sturgill Simpson album. I have seen the future. I've listened to a few songs from his new album. But, as far as being "country music", it doesn't work for me. I often defined modern country music as, "Rock music sung with rural accents." Sturgill's album pretty much fits this. This is closer to country. In my opinion.
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Oct 25, 2019 10:28:35 GMT -8
Although those who know me would never expect that I'd like country music, I really do like early/classic country. I listen to this often at work:
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Post by swmtnbackpacker on Oct 25, 2019 18:07:38 GMT -8
...In case you didn't know there is a big battle going on about how to define country music and its future. Seems formula driven, though some is being mixed with hip-hop, rap, and, via rockabilly (early ‘80s start), even punk/speed metal. The controversy is almost 20 years old but new arteests need to test the water. If it sells .. here’s a Hank Williams III soapbox on it (with a few F bombs) before playing .. Hellbilly .. ... maybe something similar to what punk did to rock before getting swallowed up by rock.
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Post by swmtnbackpacker on Oct 25, 2019 18:39:55 GMT -8
Although those who know me would never expect that I'd like country music, I really do like early/classic country. I listen to this often at work: There’s something about some of those songs. Dolly Parton played Glastonbury a few years back, typically the province of Black Sabbath, Metalica, etc.. if they’re going to pull in anyone “classic” Its time to get in the mosh pit with Dolly (Yar Dude!!)
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Post by gabby on Oct 26, 2019 10:18:05 GMT -8
Not country/bluegrass/folk/? - but I like the song. Okay, I spent an evening with George Strait 2 nights ago, and that led me astray.
I guess I could post David Allan Coe singing "You Never Even Called Me By My Name": A perfect country song, Mr Goodman, but no - 'cause there's no mention of momma, a train, a truck, a prison - or getting drunk. But I won't.
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Post by trinity on Oct 26, 2019 10:43:13 GMT -8
I've listened to a few songs from his new album. But, as far as being "country music", it doesn't work for me. I often defined modern country music as, "Rock music sung with rural accents." Sturgill's album pretty much fits this. This is closer to country. In my opinion. Fair enough. My beef with modern "country" is not that it is Rock music. It is that most of what I have heard in the past couple of decades is pure, unadulterated crap. Simpson sounds very much like country to me, but with a fresh sound, dressed up in fuzzed out guitar and synthesizers. I love it. The question of what constitutes "country" is an interesting one. I haven't seen very much of the latest Ken Burns documentary, perhaps he addressed this question. I find it difficult to define a genre that includes everything from the Carter Family, to Bob Wills, to Johnny Cash, to Johnny Horton, to Buck Owens, to Gram Parsons, to Nancy Griffith. Many of the country greats have pushed the bounds to create new sounds, such that the traditionalists considered them not authentically country. Many of my favorite artists are among these. Among my favorite more "recent" such artists are Junior Brown, Lucinda Williams, and Jimmie Dale Gilmore. Very different from each other and from the commercial sound coming out of Nashville, but all undeniably country. It is also worth noting that some of the best country songs in my lifetime were by "rock" bands, such as the Rolling Stones, the Byrds, even the Kinks. Though the Little Big Town song is much better than most country these days, I still find it emblematic of the current Nashville sound, in that the sound is, to me, tired, and the content cliche ("I'm over drinking over you"? Puh-leeze). I'm ready for country to be taken in a fresh direction, while maintaining a connection to its roots in Appalachian hillbilly music, gospel, the American west, Bakersfield, etc. Just my humble opinion.
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Post by desert dweller on Oct 29, 2019 12:05:39 GMT -8
I Hope I'm Stoned (When Jesus Takes Me Home)
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Post by reuben on Oct 29, 2019 13:52:04 GMT -8
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Post by reuben on Oct 29, 2019 14:03:23 GMT -8
Among other bands last weekend, I saw the Hogslop String Band. This is a rather reserved performance by Pickle, who plays the washtub bass. And I have to say that his notes were very distinct, and provided a real rhythm section, much to my surprise.
Fast forward to 2:00 for Greasy Coat, 5:40 for Crow Black Chicken.
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Post by driftwoody on Oct 29, 2019 16:37:14 GMT -8
Hopefully you can read this. Thank you so much for that article, which I thoroughly enjoyed. I bought a used LP of Arthur (or the Decline and Fall of the British Empire) circa 1978, and I've listed to it an inappropriate number of times in the 4+ decades since. Many other favorites might outrank this Kinks masterpiece for musicality, but I can't escape admitting that I love this album more than any other by any band. Earlier in this thread I offered up perhaps their best rocker from Arthur. "Young and Innocent Days" (below) is a sad and sweet recollection of an old friend and days gone by. I see the lines across your face
Time has gone and nothing ever can replace
Those great, so great
Young and innocent days
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Post by driftwoody on Oct 29, 2019 16:51:30 GMT -8
Sorry, but can't resist including Shangri-La -- perhaps the most emblematic song of the bunch:
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Oct 31, 2019 6:55:51 GMT -8
I'm not a rap fan either, but this song is fantastic. The rhyming style/schemes are impressive. It happens to be a great movie, too.
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Oct 31, 2019 7:01:49 GMT -8
And then there's the rap opera concept album from Deltron 3030:
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Post by desert dweller on Oct 31, 2019 13:52:57 GMT -8
Let's get real, again. Eric Burdon and Alvin Lee
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