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Post by marmotstew on Nov 25, 2023 15:11:24 GMT -8
Worked briefly with an ex fly fishing guide. He even went to school for it. Wasn’t all cracked up to what he thought it would be. You spend several hours on the river tying flies, retrieving snags, telling them what to do and how to cast all day. He would make a lot of money per trip but not all year round work of course. Wondering if that per hour is based on a year average.
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Post by trinity on Nov 25, 2023 19:01:53 GMT -8
Fly fishing is one of those hobbies that become obsession and identity. ^This. some gimmick used by the circulation department of some magazine. ^And this.
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Post by absarokanaut on Nov 25, 2023 19:30:32 GMT -8
I'm still trying to figure out why someone would choose a college just because of the fly fishing and how many of those would consult some obscure magazine for help in making that decision. Well, in Gunnison a LOT of people go to college here due to 2 ski resorts within an hour's drive. And, for those who also like to fish or mountain bike, it is like heaven. Some never leave after they graduate. Those were a bit down the list of reasons almost everyone I know had for going to Wasted State.
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Post by hikerjer on Nov 26, 2023 18:45:04 GMT -8
a LOT of people go to college here due to 2 ski resorts within an hour's drive. And, for those who also like to fish or mountain bike, it is like heaven. Same reason for attending Montana State in Bozeman. In fact, as soon as I could, I transferred there specifically for the skiing. I have no real statistics but would guess the out-of-state student population has an extremely high percentage of folks that are there for outdoor activities such as skiing, fishing, hiking, mountaineering, mtn biking, etc. How many actually stay, though, is another issue. Bozeman has gotten so expensive, especially housing, if you can find it, that the average middle class individual just cannot afford it.
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Post by rebeccad on Nov 27, 2023 7:55:25 GMT -8
Worked briefly with an ex fly fishing guide. He even went to school for it. Wasn’t all cracked up to what he thought it would be. You spend several hours on the river tying flies, retrieving snags, telling them what to do and how to cast all day. He would make a lot of money per trip but not all year round work of course. Wondering if that per hour is based on a year average. This is the sort of thing that made me understand early on that guiding (hiking; I don’t fish) wasn’t something I’d want to do. I guess it would get you out there a lot, but with a lot of baggage, literal as well as metaphorical, and at the mercy of the clients. I want to hike my own hike .
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Post by absarokanaut on Nov 27, 2023 16:38:12 GMT -8
Librarians can't fish. 8-|
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Nov 27, 2023 18:15:54 GMT -8
Fly fishing driving student debt. ROTFLMAO.
The commercialization of for profit degree factories has that covered. No waders required.
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Post by bluefish on Dec 1, 2023 4:20:37 GMT -8
Plenty of opportunities to FF in NYC. Carp, striped bass, bluefish, the LIRR out to Connetquot State Park for trophy beats, sea run brookies in the Nissequogue. Point is, I've fished in most of the contiguous states, have been a fly fishing guide and have found that almost everywhere has something decent to be plied with concoctions of fur and feathers. Well, I was a little like a fish out of water when I lived in Wickenburg, Az. on a dry river bed, but proof of the exception.... I've contemplated offers to work on the San Juan in NM and the South Holston in E. Tenn. and on private waters in N. Ca. , but declined due to reduced income and the fact some clients are intolerable. I'm more tuned into fish than people, a detraction when guiding. I do still guide and teach casting and fly tying to vets with PTSD, but that's gratis and a labor born of service and gratitude. One of my closest friends lives out in a boat only accessible shack in an estuary and is a renowned striped bass guide. What he's sacrificed to do what he loves is commendable, but a life I couldn't live. That article is as ludicrous a piece of journalism as you can find in this age of ripened tripe passing as valid information. Lots of guides I've known suffer from various addictions and alcoholism is ever present. Sign of how easy a life it is to choose. Takes a special breed, not easily taught or acquired through classes.
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Dec 6, 2023 7:06:41 GMT -8
If I may steal one of the comments to the "article":
JP September 16, 2023 At 12:47 am All the central New York schools – Colgate, Cornell, Hamilton, Ithaca, Syracuse – all of the Catskills and Adirondack rivers are in short driving distance, plus all the lakes in the area, and steelhead and salmon too.
Great trout streams in my area... one about every 3-5 miles when traveling west to east*. They tend to be on the small side and lots of brush/trees, so you have to adapt away from traditional fly fishing casts. I've perfected the roll cast.
As kids, we would go exploring in the woods all day long. Four creeks were within easy bike-riding distance. We set up caches of rods and frying pans and would catch our lunch (or go hungry).
*I got curious. Within 15 miles of my house are the following above-average trout streams: Nine Mile (GREAT fly fishing), Onondaga, Butternut, Limestone (literally in my backyard, but not a great fly fishing section), Chittenango, Canaseraga, Canastota, Cowaselon, Clockville, Oneida, Sconondoa, and Taylor.
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Dec 6, 2023 7:15:11 GMT -8
a LOT of people go to college here due to 2 ski resorts within an hour's drive. And, for those who also like to fish or mountain bike, it is like heaven. Same reason for attending Montana State in Bozeman. In fact, as soon as I could, I transferred there specifically for the skiing. I have no real statistics but would guess the out-of-state student population has an extremely high percentage of folks that are there for outdoor activities such as skiing, fishing, hiking, mountaineering, mtn biking, etc. How many actually stay, though, is another issue. Bozeman has gotten so expensive, especially housing, if you can find it, that the average middle class individual just cannot afford it. My daughter will likely have that same decision to make. SUNY Binghamton (in-state) or UVM (out-of-state). She likes both schools, but UVM offers a lot more extracurricular activities.
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