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Post by downriver on Jun 11, 2023 12:16:53 GMT -8
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reuben
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Post by reuben on Jun 11, 2023 14:58:34 GMT -8
I have a pair of their Ultra Train 2, but not the Wildfire you're asking about. Looks like the Ultra Train are up to version 3 now. I haven't worn them much as I usually grab something else by default and cuz I forget about the Salewas, which live in the laundry room for some reason. But they're muddy, so I've definitely used them, probably on some of my mental health hikes of 2-6 hours. I don't recall anything bad about them, but I think that they're still in the breaking in process. I'm lucky in that despite a high arch, I can wear pretty much anything without an issue after they're broken in. I notice that my version 2 shoes have a Michelin outsole. No idea how it compares to Vibram or anything else more mainstream. Version 3 uses Pomoca outsole, whatever that is. Sorry, no direct experience, and not much indirect, either. www.salewa.com/en-us/ultra-train-3-m-shoe-00-0000061388?c=1516599 |
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Post by oldbill on Jun 12, 2023 3:38:31 GMT -8
I have a pair. Amazing grip. Salewa's run narrow but as an approach shoe, these are even more narrow in the toe box. I bought mine a size too small. Didn't realize it until worn outside for hours and found it restrictive on a steep downhill. My feet measure 10/B so narrow is good. Bought 10.5. The heel base is a bit narrow so stability could be a little better, but a great shoe and great company.
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Post by downriver on Jun 12, 2023 6:24:07 GMT -8
I have a pair of their Ultra Train 2, but not the Wildfire you're asking about. Looks like the Ultra Train are up to version 3 now. I haven't worn them much as I usually grab something else by default and cuz I forget about the Salewas, which live in the laundry room for some reason. But they're muddy, so I've definitely used them, probably on some of my mental health hikes of 2-6 hours. I don't recall anything bad about them, but I think that they're still in the breaking in process. I'm lucky in that despite a high arch, I can wear pretty much anything without an issue after they're broken in. I notice that my version 2 shoes have a Michelin outsole. No idea how it compares to Vibram or anything else more mainstream. Version 3 uses Pomoca outsole, whatever that is. Sorry, no direct experience, and not much indirect, either. www.salewa.com/en-us/ultra-train-3-m-shoe-00-0000061388?c=1516599That’s a neat looking tread on the outsole of the new version! Happy Trails, DR |
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Post by downriver on Jun 12, 2023 6:25:48 GMT -8
I have a pair. Amazing grip. Salewa's run narrow but as an approach shoe, these are even more narrow in the toe box. I bought mine a size too small. Didn't realize it until worn outside for hours and found it restrictive on a steep downhill. My feet measure 10/B so narrow is good. Bought 10.5. The heel base is a bit narrow so stability could be a little better, but a great shoe and great company. Thx for the insights, Oldbill. Regards, DR |
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reuben
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Post by reuben on Jun 12, 2023 8:08:12 GMT -8
That’s a neat looking tread on the outsole of the new version! Happy Trails, DR I honestly can't tell one tread from the other. They all feel pretty much the same to me. I'll add that I'm happy with the 2 or 3 pairs of Salomon I've worn. |
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Post by downriver on Jun 22, 2023 17:26:04 GMT -8
I went ahead and got the non-GTX version of the shoe. Got 20% off, too. Looking forward to trying them out on Tuesday…!
Happy Trails,
DR
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Post by downriver on Jun 25, 2023 15:47:59 GMT -8
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Post by downriver on Jul 2, 2023 17:11:39 GMT -8
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Post by oldbill on Jul 4, 2023 7:58:14 GMT -8
Bought the boots as a decent fit for my foot. Don't like shoes for backpacking in rocky, off trail conditions. New Mtn Trainer 2 GTX Mids failed immediately for water-resistance in all day light rain. My nephew's 10 yr old Scarpa GTX were great. Temps in the high 30's-low 40's. Triggered Raynauds. Feet were numb and white when I reached camp. Salewa replaced them. Passed bathtub water test, but lace retention straps failed after 30 miles. Widely known issue.
Replaced with Mtn Trainer Lite GTX Mids. Passed bathtub water test (but low flood height) and uses a conventional lacing system. Too hot and humid to test on trail yet, but I expect that Pomoca will perform great over everything except muddy conditions. Probably will be the boot I take on off trail routes in the Winds in Sept.
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Post by downriver on Jul 11, 2023 11:43:05 GMT -8
My Alp Trainer 2 GTX shoes arrived on Sunday after work. I wore them around all day yesterday before going on a 5-mile hike in the evening. I was really impressed how comfortable these shoes are while hiking and walking! Super comfort. I like them better than my ON-Running shoes. Looking forward to my next hike in them later today. Shoes appear well-crafted and I found no defects on initial inspection out of the box. Happy Trails, DR    |
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Post by oldbill on Jul 11, 2023 12:45:56 GMT -8
Be interesting to know what type of Vibram was used. Be nice to compare Pomoca and this particular Vibram performance, especially on wet rock.
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Post by downriver on Jul 18, 2023 21:47:14 GMT -8
Be interesting to know what type of Vibram was used. Be nice to compare Pomoca and this particular Vibram performance, especially on wet rock. From Salewa’s site: Underfoot, the Vibram® Alpine Hiking outsole, which is exclusive to SALEWA® I think I’ll order this model (the Alps Trainer 2 GTX) 1/2 size smaller in the future for a tighter fit. My other pair (Wildfire Edge) were a perfect fit at 11, which is what I usually wear in shoes. Salewa owns Pomoca, btw. Regards, DR |
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Post by downriver on Oct 19, 2023 18:31:35 GMT -8
I’ve had my Salewa Alp Trainer 2 GTX shoes for four months now. I have used them as my primary hiking shoes in addition to wearing them at work when I walk at the campus on my break (I also use several other pairs of shoes for hiking and walking) periods. GTX breathability is fine, I like the tread on the outsoles, and the rubber rand is great for protection. Shoes clean up easy and look good, too. The one area I have not liked is the insoles; it was apparent after three months I would need to replace them with another insole. I switched the Salewa house brand for green Superfeet. Fortunately, I bought these shoes at a good discount—-almost $70 dollars off. I’ll email Salewa and let them know how I feel about the insoles. Hopefully, Salewa will change the insoles on these shoes in the future. I much prefer these shoes to the two models of ON-Running I was wearing for hiking and walking.
Regards,
DR
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Post by oldbill on Oct 20, 2023 5:31:32 GMT -8
Good to hear about the Salewa Alp Trainer 2's. My Mtn Trainer Lite GTX mids have been good, though GTX isn't all that great and I need more midfoot protection for rough trails. Hopefully they fix the lacing issues with the Mtn Trainer GTX. Great traction on both.
Few, if any, hiking footwear manufactures make acceptable insoles for those with other than "average" feet. Certainly not for high(er) arches. Most are quite thin. Lowa and Oboz have been better than most IMO. But, I always use a specialty insert from Powerstep or TreadLabs these days for better support. High arches make me more susceptible to tendinopathies. Had custom orthotics at one point, but have been told by a few podiatrists that I really don't need those.
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