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Post by cweston on Nov 13, 2020 8:38:06 GMT -8
Yeah, spreading it out more would help. The idea is supposed to be to have soup on arriving in camp, as a restorative. What I will probably do is carry soup for some days, but not all, and use it when I need it. I sometimes leave a little something (like a couple squares of a chocolate bar) out to eat right before bed--especially when it's cold. I'm usually at high elevation, so appetite is limited and I quickly get full when eating my main dinner. It also helps, allegedly, to sleep warmer when your body has some digestive work to do.
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Post by Coolkat on Nov 13, 2020 8:52:44 GMT -8
Traditionally I don't carry sugar loaded items. I've said this before but one of my fears is getting sick on the trail and sugar doesn't help the immune system. However, my trip to CO this year taught me that there might be a place for a couple of pieces of hard candy or something anyway to give a quick boost of energy when needed.
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Post by rebeccad on Nov 13, 2020 13:45:51 GMT -8
Traditionally I don't carry sugar loaded items. I've said this before but one of my fears is getting sick on the trail and sugar doesn't help the immune system. However, my trip to CO this year taught me that there might be a place for a couple of pieces of hard candy or something anyway to give a quick boost of energy when needed. You are correct about that, and I will always have chocolate with me, and will eat some every day.
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Post by jazzmom on Nov 13, 2020 14:32:22 GMT -8
I struggled on my trips this summer to get the food weight down to the 1.5 lb mark, even though I was doing it fine when cooking for two. And then in the Weminuche I found that I just didn’t want to eat everything. It might have had something to do with a slower hiking pace than usual? I honestly don’t know. But I’ve always done dinner in 3 parts, with soup, entree, and dessert, and that’s changing. Need to dump the sugar more anyway. A couple of random thoughts. Just because two of you were eating 3lb per day doesn't mean you were each eating 1.5lb. Maybe it was subtle but you were eating more than half *of the weight*; that could mean that you favor the "heavier" items, not necessarily that you ate more. I think you'll find that homemade meals are heavier than commercial meals/ingredients. Dehydrating just doesn't extract as much water as freeze-drying.
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Post by rangewalker on Nov 14, 2020 18:31:36 GMT -8
I'm just wondering if there is anyone else who still after many of years of backpacking seem to always take too much food. Not sure why I do this even though I try to watch for it. It took me decades to finally not overpack food. The first step was modeled after my home life was eliminating the desert thing. I starting backpacking in the late '60s, the desert, and lots of sugar in the evening was almost set in stone requirement. Then we wondered why we couldn't sleep. I found loading up breakfast with more calories and protein, less oatmeal, helped later in the morning. Slimming down lunch was next. Something other than a bar, but keep it simple. On the day and a half trips, the second day, just a bar was good. On the start, something from the store or the breakfast stop. On a day and a half trip that went wrong, and I spent an unexpected night out, having that emergency ramen brick for dinner with a handful of dates, one oatmeal packet, and a tube of coffee the next morning made a big difference in my attitude.
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Post by rebeccad on Nov 15, 2020 8:51:16 GMT -8
rangewalker, Since I’m always looking for ways to improve my breakfast, what do you use to increase the protein, without adding weight. I’ve been reducing the amount of oatmeal and boosting the number of nuts in the bag, but it’s a small step.
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Post by zeke on Nov 15, 2020 9:00:08 GMT -8
rebeccad, my previous hiking partner used a protein powder added to his breakfast. Can't recall if he added it before the hot water, or after. Seemed to turn the water into a more milk like liquid. There are flavors.
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Post by rebeccad on Nov 15, 2020 9:58:09 GMT -8
rebeccad , my previous hiking partner used a protein powder added to his breakfast. Can't recall if he added it before the hot water, or after. Seemed to turn the water into a more milk like liquid. There are flavors. I tried protein powder once. It was nasty. Maybe there are better options, but... so far, the best I’ve gotten is peanut butter in the oats
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Post by zeke on Nov 15, 2020 10:00:37 GMT -8
rebeccad To drop weight, have you tried the peanut butter powder?
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Post by rebeccad on Nov 15, 2020 12:04:27 GMT -8
rebeccad To drop weight, have you tried the peanut butter powder? I did, once. The stuff was full of sugar and didn’t taste much like peanut butter. Maybe there are better versions out there, in which case I’d be happy to hear about them!
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Post by BigLoad on Nov 15, 2020 12:27:54 GMT -8
I like the Justin's almond butter packs. One or two of those per day is a satisfying way to get some tasty calories with minimal fuss.
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Post by davesenesac on Nov 15, 2020 12:33:23 GMT -8
Am fine with bringing a modest amount of extra food. Much worse being hungry. As have noted in the past, am not one of the majority on the board that has a poor appetite while backpacking and in fact am hungrier, so bring much snack food and sweets I normally rarely eat. Am also not one of the many that often cut their trips short due to dreaming of some front country meat dinner or beer.
Most of the time I have extra dinners at the end of week long group trips, it is the result of one fishing bro that catches trout I didn't plan for. Otherwise, I sometimes end up with extra food if too busy with photography to find time to eat. On a 9-day trip my food weight including packaging is often in the 11# to 13# range. On short trips, I always bring extra food as that matters little.
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Post by johntpenca on Nov 15, 2020 17:41:02 GMT -8
Am fine with bringing a modest amount of extra food. Much worse being hungry. Agreed. I'd rather come back with left over food than run short. An extra meal or two weighs less than a quart of water.
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Post by rebeccad on Nov 15, 2020 21:08:50 GMT -8
Am fine with bringing a modest amount of extra food. Much worse being hungry. Agreed. I'd rather come back with left over food than run short. An extra meal or two weighs less than a quart of water. True. But the extra food I want is extra snacks and stuff, or an extra meal, not servings that are too big to eat comfortably. I’m looking at ”right-sizing” servings, and deciding how many extras I actually want/need. I’m small enough that on a week long trip the difference in weight between 1.25 lbs/day and 1.75 lbs/day does matter.
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Post by BigLoad on Nov 15, 2020 21:16:41 GMT -8
But the extra food I want is extra snacks and stuff, or an extra meal, not servings that are too big to eat comfortably My latest solution to the commercial serving size problem is to subdivide the meals at home or on the trail. I'll cook only as much as I feel comfortable to committing to eating. Maybe I'll cook some more later if I underestimated, but more often I save it for another night. Some nights I have a bit each of a couple different things.
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