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Post by cweston on Sept 4, 2019 9:34:48 GMT -8
I think it might be useful to share some stories about hiking injuries/illnesses and what you had--or wished you had--in your FAK when you needed it.
By about a factor of a million, my most frequent need is foot doctoring: I normally carry a few different types of padding material and a couple kinds of tape, because this stuff will be needed at some point pretty-much every trip. (I find the large corn protectors, shaped like donuts, especially versatile.) Likewise antibiotic ointment: the second-most-common hiking injury, in my experience, is scratches and scrapes. I've taken a lot of skin off a knee a couple times from falls or postholing in talus/boulders. Extra large bandages are about the only thing that is useful in protecting that type of wound.
(EDIT: tape is not only for first aid, of course.)
Beyond that, I've been very fortunate: I've needed pain-relievers and anti-diarrheals now and then. (Make sure the latter are not past their expiration date.) I always carry something like Claritin because it's pretty common to have congestion/allergin issues when at different elevations in different climates than usual.
Let's hear some war stories, and what you had (or not) in your FAK to deal with them.
(Posted here because it's not *just* about gear.)
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Post by zeke on Sept 4, 2019 9:42:18 GMT -8
I've never had an injury in the field that required more than Ibuprofen, or some tape. Unless you count my being choppered out of the Canyon last April, when no amount of FAK would've helped. That was an eye issue, but was treated as a possible stroke until it was definitively ruled out at the ER. I tend to carry only tape and some pain killers in my FAK.
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Sept 4, 2019 9:51:52 GMT -8
There was that time, on Christmas Eve, when I got back to the trailhead much later than my wife thought I would. That was the closest I've been to needing first aid.
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Post by reuben on Sept 4, 2019 12:58:24 GMT -8
Aw heck, tigger can't hardly get out of his own garage without a 911 call to the fire department and EMTs.
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Post by crawford on Sept 4, 2019 15:41:56 GMT -8
Nothing too major on a backpacking trip. One fall by a companion was a little bad. We were crossing a boulder field and he fell sideways and backwards. Bruising on the right forearm, a twisted right ankle, and cuts in the right calf. Had some larger gauze pads and tape for the cuts and another fellow had a small wrap for the ankle. We carried a bunch of his gear for the rest of the day. He took ibuprofen for the pain and welling and the next day he managed to carry his own gear. We only had a day and a half left on the hike and he was determined to wrap the ankle well and finish the hike. On the military side, when out on extended ops with a small team, the worst I felt was dysentery with absolutely nothing that would reduce the symptoms. Also had some dangerous hypothermia and frostbite, but managed out of that with the help of others and eventual movement to the rear area.
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Post by swimswithtrout on Sept 4, 2019 16:07:20 GMT -8
I or my my wife have never needed more than some blister care in all of our years BP'g
I will NOT discuss all of the "last aid" situations I've had to perform in 50 yrs of rock-climbing
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Post by tigger on Sept 4, 2019 17:07:21 GMT -8
Yeah...I wear some sort of eye protection during my off-trail hikes often these days. I've had to hike out quite a few times with an eye that feels like it should be gouged out. I do carry some basic eye goop for dealing with smaller scratches.
Blister care is required.
I bring a burn kit (both in the garage and in the wilderness). Dumped more than one hot meal in my lap...and occasionally set myself on fire in the garage.
Honestly, I try and carry a bit of everything for anything. I expect to be wounded.
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Post by daveg on Sept 4, 2019 18:29:57 GMT -8
I, too, have been fortunate. Just scrapes and blisters for the most part. My most serious and lasting injury was a partial tear of my rotator cuff. That happened when I was moving forward at a decent clip when my hiking pole got stuck between two rocks behind me and jerked my right shoulder backwards something terrible before I realized what was happening and could let go. The pain wasn't so bad that I couldn't finish my hike but after I got home I went to see my doc. Six months of PT helped but there is still pain in some positions and I don't have the strength in my right arm that I used to.
There is another story I won't tell you. Suffice it to say I now carry a stool softener in my FAK.
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Post by cweston on Sept 4, 2019 18:32:46 GMT -8
Lol tigger. Thanks for the reminder that I need to up my FAK game in the shop at home. I do some pretty serious power tool/construction projects, so disaster is, realistically speaking, inevitable.
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Post by rebeccad on Sept 4, 2019 19:09:49 GMT -8
I’ve never personally needed more than the odd band-aid and of course my ibuprofen. Tape for blisters, which I almost never have (but my husband has recently started getting them again, in a somewhat random fashion). Oh, and I’ve used my migraine pills once or twice though they weren’t really migraines—just stubborn headaches that were messing with my ability to enjoy myself, or maybe function.
But: way back in the day, I part of a group of 4 on our second morning out when one of us got what he thought was a badly sprained ankle. He taped it thoroughly, so I’d say tape is definitely on the list. Then he hiked out, went to ER, and came home (we were housemates) with his leg in a cast. Broken fibula. I don’t think there was anything we could have had with us that would have made matters any better for us, except that if we’d had trekking poles instead of ice axes he’d have been able to lean on them better (the longest axe among us was pretty darned short for a guy of his height to use as a crutch).
I keep my FAK pretty simple; after all these years I recognize the limits of it, but also of what I can do with one. Sometime soon we’ll probably add a SPOT or something as age increases the chances of an illness or injury we can’t just “walk off”.
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Post by FamilySherpa on Sept 5, 2019 9:41:54 GMT -8
Came across an older man who had slipped and fallen on some rocks, hiking with his family. Pretty bad cut on his head. We used some iodine cleaning swabs & butterfly closures from my FAK to help with the bleeding, which helped to calm him down quite a bit so he could walk out.
My wife stopped to assist with a man who was in cardiac arrest. She had aspirin in her FAK, but he was non-responsive at that point. She was trail running, and ended up running up to Mt Leconte lodge to get an AED and radio park HQ. Sadly they were never able to use the AED and he passed away.
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Post by bluefish on Sept 6, 2019 3:53:48 GMT -8
I've helped out a few people with broken legs to get out to civilization and have doled out bandages and pain relievers uncounted, but the most frightening to me was when my wife started suffering from heat exhaustion at the bottom of the Hermit Trail in the GC. We go in April, but it was unusually hot and was over 90 on the long shadeless grades dropping onto the Tonto. She was weak, nauseous and feeling very faint. I immediately soaked a buff and placed it over her head and erected a shade shelter with an e-blanket and our poles. After 3-4 changes of the buff, some re-hydration w/electrolytes and some rest, she was able to continue at a slower pace and we made it to Monument CG. I set her up in the shade and let her get some rest for the remainder of the day. I know an e-blanket is not considered UL gear, but considering it's usefulness in winter and in general as a tarp, ground cloth, and shade shelter, it becomes an essential in my book. I also throw it over our tent when we leave it set up to protect it from UV degradation. April of '18 I was choppered out from 3 mile rest house on the Bright Angel Trail. I felt very strong, but I had severe vertigo. Luckily I guessed right in the middle of feeling like a 78 record and dove into the rocks, not over the edge of the switchback I was on. I had spent part of the previous evening hanging out with the ranger that ended up assisting me. We had a good laugh at the irony of swapping rescue stories the previous night, as I had worked for the USFS and had participated in rescues. I was helpless, not being able to walk more than 10' without falling and I couldn't even keep a sip of water down. I was embarrassed but, it wasn't my preparedness, in gear or physical training, that was lacking. I'm so grateful to the people that helped me. We're darn lucky to have highly skilled and dedicated people like them to watch our backs. My wife fell on a treacherous stretch of the Upper LaBarge Box in the Superstitions last April and bruised her ribs, it was the first time I brought some CBD oil. Aleve and a 1/4 teaspoon rubbed in gave her enough relief to keep going the next few days on the trail til we were out. Knock on wood, I seem to get scraped and bruised a little, but nothing worse than what I get in work, daily, with the exception of that darn bout of vertigo.
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Post by rebeccad on Sept 6, 2019 7:49:48 GMT -8
Made use of my micro-FAK yesterday while walking in the park (Bidwell Park in Chico is huge, with a wild section, and I was well up in the canyon). Met a woman who asked if I had a band-aid as she had a blister. She was hiking barefoot in Tevas, and I suspect she hadn’t meant to go so far, but it was the kind of morning that lured you on... fortunately I’ve taken to stuffing a bag with a few band-aids and things into every pack I might use hiking, and could oblige.
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Post by JRinGeorgia on Sept 6, 2019 13:47:36 GMT -8
I learned the hard way that the tweezers that come with your basic SAK suck. Got a rock shard stuck in the bottom of my foot while taking a swim break in a creek. The little Swiss Army tweezers couldn't pull it out, I had to cut and dig my skin with a blade around the shard to loosen it out. Luckily it was the 2nd to last day on the trail so only had to hike about 8 miles and about 1,000 ft elevation gain and 3,000 elevation loss on it. Now I carry Uncle Bill's tweezers.
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Post by rebeccad on Sept 9, 2019 7:33:59 GMT -8
My dad always used a corner of his nail clippers to pull splinters, so I do, too. Sometimes a bit of extra skin gets involved :D
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