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Post by desert dweller on Jul 16, 2019 6:54:25 GMT -8
I'm not sure how she could have done things differently other than not having at least some of the 10 essentials. A whistle would have been good in this case. California hiker found in Inyo National Forest after going missing with dog 'thankful' By MORGAN WINSOR Jul 16, 2019, 8:21 AM"I took off with my dog and we just ran in a different direction than I knew my husband was, because the guy was between me and my husband, so I went the other way," she said. "I did what I had to." link
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Post by autumnmist on Jul 16, 2019 7:47:23 GMT -8
Not that there's necessarily rationale applied by criminals, but I wonder why a knife wielding man would be in such a remote area, with presumably a less likelihood of encountering potential victims. Or perhaps he was "camping out" in his own way and living somewhere in the area.
In addition, there's no indication of how he restrained her until she escaped. She used "we", inferring her dog was at risk of being stabbed as well. He must have captured both of them together? Bound them?
I'm not questioning her story, but it seems like something's missing. That could be journalistic discretion though.
However, I give her credit for surviving w/o anything, as apparently she had "nothing" with her except her dog, and somehow at some point the dog became separated as well.
And I'm glad they're both safe now, and apparently unharmed. It's a good reminder to be safe wherever we go. (I've had some strange and unsettling encounters at Wayne State University, two in main buildings and one on the main street in the area.)
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Post by desert dweller on Jul 16, 2019 8:02:03 GMT -8
In addition, there's no indication of how he restrained her until she escaped. She used "we", inferring her dog was at risk of being stabbed as well. He must have captured both of them together? Bound them? Those are valid questions. In my mind I envisioned that she was being extremely compliant with the guy while continually assessing the situation and ran when she got the chance. I didn't get the impression that she was bound up. Maybe I missed that in the article. I'm also very happy for the family. Funny you mentioned Wayne University. This morning I read a Rolling Stone interview with Jack White. He attended Wayne University for a semester and was recently awarded an honorary degree.
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Jul 16, 2019 8:15:10 GMT -8
I'm not questioning her story I am
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Post by autumnmist on Jul 16, 2019 9:56:38 GMT -8
walkswithblackflies, would you share your suspicions? Is it because there's no background info on how the woman and the dog were "held", the randomness of the alleged attacker happening to be at the same spot she and the dog were walking, how she managed to survive 4 days on just water and cacti, or the fact that someone who's an experienced hiker wouldn't have just "run off"? I'm not challenging you, just wondering b/c at first I had the same thought, then felt guilty accusing someone who experienced such an ordeal. In addition, I really don't understand why someone would fictionalize this kind of experience. Naïve, perhaps, but what would she gain from fabricating this story?
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Jul 16, 2019 10:09:17 GMT -8
Maybe more info will come out, and I could easily change my mind, but my first impression is the elements of the story, taken together, are just "too much". Plus, there's the fact that I'm a cynical ol' bastard.
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Post by toejam on Jul 16, 2019 10:19:14 GMT -8
I'm not questioning her story I am There are a bunch of posts from her and her family on Facebook. I think her story is legit, but clearly she should have tried to get to her husband. Here's another scary story with questionable details - www.register-pajaronian.com/article/watsonville-man-shot-killed-by-camper-after-breaking-into-tentAs this entire nation seems to be trying to spend more time in beautiful outdoor places, those dangerous and harmful among us are making their presence known. Watch out for your families. The murderer on the AT this year was threatening people for weeks before he murdered and maimed. Too bad he wasn't beaten with a piece of fire wood before that could happen. Dixie's neck knife was a good idea.
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Post by bluefish on Jul 16, 2019 11:50:27 GMT -8
Besides Manson being captured in the shadow of the Inyos (I got to see the cabinet he hid in) , there's been a number of other violent and murderous incidents between the Owens and Death Valleys. I had friends that survived a mass murder in the Panamints. I've run into some strange people in the desert mountains. I narrowly avoided getting shot in the Sespe wilderness by some meth heads, so I don't doubt her story. I saw this emerge on High Sierra Topix and hoped it would have a good ending. Hooray. It is getting a little hairier out there, but I still ain't carrying. I can still throw a good fastball or a punch. Rocks, trekking poles, whatever's handy. My wife and I did 4 days on some little used trails in the Superstitions and saw one person, a girl hiking alone and lost. I think she did a vertical of about 3' when I came up on her. Glad she wasn't armed. It helped my wife wasn't far behind. We got her turned around and headed in the right direction with some food and water. If it wasn't for the presence of my wife, this girl may have just bolted. I don't blame her.
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Post by johntpenca on Jul 16, 2019 14:15:39 GMT -8
As this entire nation seems to be trying to spend more time in beautiful outdoor places, those dangerous and harmful among us are making their presence known. I've camped at Grand View. It is a favorite for astrologists during the meteor showers and star gazing during times when the moon does not come out. It is a bit of a drive off the 395. Other than those periods, it is somewhat remote and relatively un-occupied. I believe her story. When I camped there it seemed like a place bad things could happen. I know I was on full alert while I was there.
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Post by rebeccad on Jul 16, 2019 15:54:05 GMT -8
As this entire nation seems to be trying to spend more time in beautiful outdoor places, those dangerous and harmful among us are making their presence known. I've camped at Grand View. It is a favorite for astrologists during the meteor showers and star gazing during times when the moon does not come out. It is a bit of a drive off the 395. Other than those periods, it is somewhat remote and relatively un-occupied. I believe her story. When I camped there it seemed like a place bad things could happen. I know I was on full alert while I was there. Not at all the feeling I had when we stayed there last summer. But I can’t really say—we were there for the bristlecones, and pulled in after dark and left at first light. Seemed like a fairly typical bunch of campers from what we could see. That was a random night in August, and the CG was pretty full. I hadn’t read closely enough to realize I knew the campground. That actually makes me wonder a little bit about her story. This is not an area of thick forest, and it’s on a ridge with a road along it, so basic directions seem like they shouldn’t be that hard to figure even if you do get lost. Still, it’s a broad ridge and things are never quite as simple as they seem from your armchair.
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Post by geosp on Jul 16, 2019 16:10:39 GMT -8
Her story sounds a bit 'sus' to me. She just doesn't look like the sort who could outrun a desperate man in close proximity and at the same time clutching that dog. Looking at other interviews there doesn't seem to be much focus on the attacker and something about her demeanour is poking my cynical button. Though as I get older that's not too hard to do...
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Post by Lamebeaver on Jul 16, 2019 16:20:17 GMT -8
Most prefer to be called "astronomers" I'm also a bit skeptical of the story, but perhaps information is being withheld at the request of the police. I'm glad she's OK and will refrain from further comments until more details are available.
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Post by autumnmist on Jul 16, 2019 17:08:06 GMT -8
toejam, I hope it never reaches the point of having to have burglar alarms on/in tents. When I camped there it seemed like a place bad things could happen. I know I was on full alert while I was there. What were the conditions that made you feel this way?
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Post by JRinGeorgia on Jul 16, 2019 18:00:50 GMT -8
What I read in the story is that the knife-wielder got between her and her husband (and, presumably, the rest of the campground) and she ran the other way. Doesn't say she claims he held her, doesn't say she claims he chased her. I just don't see anything to immediately cause suspicion about the story.
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Post by hikerjer on Jul 16, 2019 19:07:31 GMT -8
Not questioning her story but I wonder why if she was that close to her husband she didn’t scream. Or maybe she did or maybe she was just to frightened. I’m sure more will come out later. I saw her interviewed on the news tonight and she seemed legit.
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